Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 7, 1984

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1984 where Micciah discusses:
The meaning of assemblage points ....“like threads of awareness”.... and the seven worlds from Don Juan/Carlos Casteneda. View Section
Teaching in dream time. View Section
Food: what to eat and how ....“bless it.” View Section
Anger. View Section

   Micciah:  We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie:  We do greet you, indeed.  This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter.  Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance,  and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm.  This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes.  We want to expand our circle, and include your energy and interest in our work.
   In this session Micciah is going to do the questions himself and he refers to the “assemblage points” and to the “seven worlds.”  Those are references that come from a Carlos Casteneda book called “The Fire From Within.”


   Micciah: We greet you dear friends.
   You have asked this evening about the assemblage points, or the threads of awareness that hang together to create the fabric of your experience, and you have asked about the seven worlds.  About the voices, or the guidance of the instructor or teacher, in dream life.  And you have asked about the healing significance of your recent presidential election.
   The assemblage points are like threads, or cords, of energy.  If you think of fabric, or something loosely woven, or really, loosely woven in some places and very tightly woven in others, that is a good visual guide.  They are created out of group beliefs; that is, a whole group, or community, or nation, or planet has some of these threads in common.  And they are created out of individual beliefs.  Systems of belief are energy; they don’t really have energy, they are energy, organized in a particular form.  When you teach a child to be in the world, as you see the world, which really means not so much seeing the world as not seeing whole portions of it, you are inviting the child to share these organizing points.  And the child needs this to participate in the culture.  Now, as it happens in your culture, the threads that you drop out of the weaving are those which deal with the reality of alternate realities, the reality of energetic reality.  When children see lights, or double bodies around physical bodies, they are instructed that that is not what they see; so they stop seeing them.  When you begin to meditate, if that is a discipline you choose to follow, or when you are involved, in fact, in any pursuit which alters the frame, be it deep creativity, or conscious attention to dream work, or playing music, or making love, or your groups and classes, then the awareness is altered and you begin to pick up the awareness of the threads that have been rendered invisible — although they never disappeared.  And you see a whole pattern in the fabric or field, sensations that you had not experienced before in your development.  Certain drugs alter these threads, but they must be used very carefully and with guidance, not just used at random.  Alcohol, you know, alters your awareness.  If the substances of consciousness alteration are used with guidance and in a meditative framework and supported by wisdom, they can pluck up the other threads for you to explore along new lines.  If they are just used at random, they are either of no value or damaging. 
   Does this answer your question?

   Sheldon:  About the assemblage points....

   Micciah:  Yes.

   Sheldon:  Also about the seven worlds....

   Micciah:  Yes, that is part two.  You know, when you chant, and if you would chant longer you would feel it even more strongly, the assemblage points move.  And when the Sufi dancers whirl, the assemblage points move.  And when “this one” comes together with our realm, it is only through moving her assemblage points.  And when healing transpires through a flow of the great energies, when the personal self makes room and opens the assemblage points — really, it is like loosening a weaving — then the energy pours through and there is no aftermath in the physical body.
   What of the worlds?  Well, those worlds as described are also a product of a certain way of reading reality, reality in its totality.  Hard to explain this....  It is hard to explain in language because language itself and your sentence structures have a beginning, a middle and a period at the end.  We would need to be all the voices of an orchestra to describe it, the oboe and the clarinet, the violin and the cello, and the piano, and the drums, everything.  The realms interpenetrate.  The worlds interpenetrate.  And when you alter the assemblage point, you see, feel, hear another realm.  The one most commonly available in your culture is the dream realm.  Now, is there time in a dream?  Not as you know it in the body.  But is there time in the body?  A physical self, the physical aspect of the physical self, arises in the linear realm at a certain time.  And it has a beginning, a middle and an apparent end.  But the energy that belongs to the physical self has no time.  The physicalized portion that resides seemingly in the physical world is defined in time, and yet just the physical portion is a very small part of the totality.  And when the other realms are inserted into the physical one, because they interpenetrate, then it is all happening at once.  So, let us say that in one facet of one reality there are beginnings, middles and endings; and the riddle of that reality is to cope with the linear definitions and also, paradoxically, to transmute them or transcend them.
   Does this answer? No, not really (laughter).  In your culture there is a saying:  “My life flashed before me in an instant.”  People who are at the brink of physical death report this to you.  That is not a metaphor.  The weaving opens so that it is all seen and felt and experienced and heard — in the twinkling of an eye.  And you could expand upon that and say that all the lives belonging to the Great Self are experienced in the twinkling of an eye.  And all the great ages, one of which is coming to an end now in its great heaving throes, are experienced in the twinkling of an eye; and the life of the planet itself comes and goes, in the twinkling of a very large eye.  And it is the paradox of this plane that each moment, which isn’t really a moment at all, is infinitely precious and also of no great importance.
   And this realm itself has not always been the same.  There was a time in the great no time of all time when you were much more loosely connected to your bodies.  So this is part of an answer.  It is not an answer as much as it is a further exploration.  And in your culture’s fear of death, you are very much at the mercy of time.
   Which brings us to two other questions.  Yes, there is teaching in dreams, in dream time.  You are most familiar, all of you, with the fluidity of dream time, yes?  The collapsible expandableness of dream time.  You are young and then you are old, you are here and then you are in China, and then you are in the subway, and then you are somewhere else.  The more you ask for instruction or teaching or guidance in your dream, the more you will hear it.  The voice, this voice you mention that has been described to you, comes at any time during a dream.  It is caught just before waking because that is when the person’s alertness hovers closest to waking time.  But it is there.  We have taught “this one” a great deal in her dreams.  Sometimes she has said, “Stop now!”  There is a very easy access in dreams because the conscious mind, what you call the conscious mind, is not so busy defending its territory.
   One more, yes?  About food.  Food.  How did everyone survive all those years, thousands, millions of years, on those terrible diets?  The best food is living food, that is, food that has not had the vitality smashed out of it.  After the bombs, there was a real shift in the ecology of your earth, you know.  Not only the bombs that were set off in wars but all those tests, some of which were done inside the earth, yes?  So this has changed the balance of life and has created as a result sensitivities and predispositions to certain difficulties in the body as a result.  We did suggest to you a long time ago, and we will suggest it again — and this relates to your questions about healing and about safety and about awareness — that when you eat your food, take a moment before, center your own consciousness, and imagine that it is life giving itself to life.  If you eat animal food, take a moment and bless the animal.  You have noticed that everything on this planet eats everything else, so let’s not be too fussy about that, hmm?  That is another way of turning your nose up at death.  It is better to kill animals consciously if you are going to eat them, but you don’t, can’t, do that, obviously.  If you are a meat-eater in this country, the meat comes to you in a little cellophane bag.  We have nothing good to say about the treatment of animals, the wholesale slaughter, the toxification of animals with chemicals, and the use of animals to experiment on.  We have nothing  good to say about this.  This is a desecration.  Nevertheless, bless your food when it comes to you.   And thank the spirit of the animals that has given its life for you.  Or the broccoli.  If you bless your food, life to life, almost everything will agree with you.  And if you know you have sensitivities, then don’t eat those things for awhile.  Ask your body what it wants to eat!  It is in your own inner power.  How can you look in a book and figure out what you want to eat?  Now, if the figuring-out part has been robbed of its energies, then you will have to teach it to come back to life.  You know, babies have a very clear sense of what they want. 
   Sometimes a particular cycle of food is very good for the body, to rebalance.  The most powerful approach is to ask yourself.  You think you will want to eat ice cream all the time, but you won’t.  Of course you can read about it and become educated, but, again, the power is within you.  And you must have a relationship with your food, not just either shoving it in your mouth or forcing yourself not to shove it in your mouth.
   Anger is a territorial response.  We have also said this before.  If you step on the cat’s foot, it will go “ichhhh!”  before it runs away.  It is a way of saying, “You’re on my foot!  I don’t like it!”  But it will not lunge at you.  It is a protection.  When the protection is damaged, when you are told as a child, “don’t.... don’t .... don’t .... don’t be angry now,” then the ability to feel what is a perfectly normal feeling becomes associated with moral goodness or badness.  The warning system is dismantled and ignored and dishonored.  And then you have troubles, then you have troubles.  To say to someone “I feel angry” can go a long way toward healing a relationship.  Not blaming him, not attacking him, but claiming your angry feelings.
   So, that is enough, hmm?  We share with all of you much energy and love and we bid you a very good evening.


   Julie:  Is it over?  Its over. 
   What we do in class after a Micciah session is talk the material through, and agree, and disagree.  We would love you to do the same.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”