Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 19, 1985

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1985 where Micciah discusses:
What qualities of consciousness create vibrant physical health and what is the meaning of illness? View Section
• How do we transform our attitudes toward aging, illness and death? View Section
• Connection between personal power, sexual expressivity and clear identity View Section

(The original video was deteriorated in parts, a VHS dub has been used over a section to make it viewable.)

   Micciah:  We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie:  We do greet you, indeed.  This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter.  Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance,  and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm.  This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes.  We want to expand our circle, and include your energy and interest in our work.
   OK, the issues that we’re dealing with are: What qualities of consciousness create vibrant physical health? How to transform our attitudes toward aging and toward death? And how to handle the varieties of separation that we face in the contemporary world?
   Oh, I know these questions are going to be fun, I can feel the energy. [class laughs]
   Hey! Hang on! Let me get in the channel first here.

   Micciah:  Yes, we greet you all on this spring evening! [class laughs] So we are as excited as you are!  It is wonderful that you are always asking, always engaged in the journey, always turning your experience around and around, to find the clues, to allow yourselves to open further and further to the vastness and the play of love that is the truth about life.  And you come here every week and play with all of this, with consciousness 
   Health, in your culture, is a very serious business — sometimes with the emphasis on business.  Illness is very serious, and hospitals are very serious places. 
   What is it that creates a strong, vital body?  Well, unfortunately, it is not so easy as: if you keep your consciousness aligned then you will be healthy.  Disease is not a punishment.  It is very often, most often, probably always, a communication; sometimes it is a cleansing.  So, you have in your mind, and the personality has in its belief system, that it is good to be healthy and bad to be sick.  And culturally you have a very strange combination in your attitude toward sickness which is both indulgent and sadistic, without grappling with the real issues.  It is true that the body mirrors the totality of consciousness.  Spirit, mind, and body are on a continuum; they are not all separate.  You know this.  But then it is not a mistake in your consciousness to be out of balance physically.  It is a communication.  And almost all illnesses can be rebalanced by the consciousness except when it is the intention in creating the illness that it take you out of the body.  There was a time, and we will speak of this later with the question about dying, when people knew how to remove themselves from their bodies by closing down their energies and leaving.  Really, perhaps we will talk about these two issues together. 
   You have tremendous resistance to the process of decay, but decay is part of life, yes?  Yes.  Animals die and decay into the soil, or are eaten by the birds of prey or the other animals that eat carrion.  Everything is always being born and dying and being born and dying; and in the great context, the matrix that holds it all, there really is no death.  But it looks that way, it looks that way.  So, let us differentiate, we will make a strange differentiation between healthy disease and disease that results out of stagnation.  When there is stagnation in the emotional body, when there are feelings that are suppressed and repressed and denied and hated, then disease arises very often in the physical body as a mirror of the suppression.  If you suppress your feelings of love, if you crush your own vulnerability behind armor, then it is not surprising that your heart attacks you, that the heart simply gives way, that it clogs, that it fails.  It is not a punishment.  Don’t make that mistake.  “Oh, responsibility!  If you don’t love right then your heart will punish you and you will have a heart attack.” It is a reflection.  And if you are attuned to your feelings, you can work with them and allow vulnerability. Yes? But sometimes you might create a heart attack to leave this plane of action.  So when there is stagnation in the emotional body, one area that it may show itself forth, is the physical body.  You say, “Well, there are plenty of mean people who don’t have heart attacks.  And plenty of nice ones who do.”  That has nothing to do with it.  That is the personality trying to judge, trying to connive: “I’ll be nice, and I will never have a heart attack.”  No, it doesn’t work that way.  The putrefactive diseases - cancer is a kind of proliferative putrefaction — comes from a stagnation of the creative forces, as well as from profoundly suppressed feelings.  Yet, sometimes the Great Self “chooses” that the body will produce a cancer, and in that tremendous illness, in the crisis of it, the heart opens.
   You don’t know what someone is doing when they create a disease.  You must find out from them what is the communication.  And if you can dance with it, then it is not so awful and awesome and serious. 
   Now, there are also the ordinary cleansing diseases; there is a little toxin in the body, or there is an upsurge of feeling that is not discharged, so you get a sore throat or you create a cold.  To clear it out!  Your body is always responding, always communicating.  Sometimes people choose physical illness to learn certain kinds of wisdom, and to learn in some sense it doesn’t matter, that you can be vital and alive in a body that is handicapped, but also that you have the power to heal.  You are always delivering over your power to the outside forces, to the medicine, the vitamins, the hospital.  You all have the power to heal yourselves!  Sometimes disease is a bid for attention.  Which is very successful in your culture, except that when you get the attention it is this odd combination of indulgent attention and sometimes sadistic attention.  Having pieces cut out of you is quite sadistic, yes?  As we have said before, it is a substitute for an offering, for a sacrifice.  Sacrifice your kidneys, sacrifice your liver.  And hospitals are great temples: masks, gowns, sacred knives, silence, respect.  You thought the Aztecs and the people who made sacrifices were peculiar!
   So, how do you create health?  Real health, real wholeness, is the ability to be with the way it is in every moment.  Health is only minimally about getting better.  Now, oddly enough, when you are able to be in the truth of the moment, when you don’t have to block your feelings, your needs, your vulnerability, when you’re really able to fully claim who you really are, often the body gets better. What does that tell you?  That illness can be a mirror of some unclaimed portion trying to speak to you.  There are various techniques that you can use, along with inner change, feeling change.  Just adjusting, only adjusting, at a mechanical level will not really create health.  Is this clear?

   Class:  Yes.

   Micciah:  So don’t punish yourselves when you feel ill.  Sometimes illness can be circumvented, if you wish, by giving yourself what you need.  Since you have such a strong cultural belief that it is all right to have what you want when you are sick; people bring flowers and candy to the hospital.  It would make more sense to bring them when you are well!  The signals are very mixed up.
   Now, what creates wellness, then?  Telling the truth. Being able to be in the whole truth — which always means having the capacity to love, to love yourself, to be in compassion — can heal you like that!  Of course healing may mean the body dies.  Hanging on to the body, to the overcoat, is so destructive.  Machines, the ghastliness of machines that pump the breath when the body is trying to go. It is sadistic. 
   There is no death.  We will assure you of very few things.  We assure you that consciousness goes right on.  On the personal level, there is mourning and sadness and loss.  We don’t mean to ignore those or pretend they are not part of your living.  There is nothing to fear.  But you do as a group fear putrefaction, you fear the part of the creative cycle, which is absolutely necessary on this planet, which breaks things down.  We have said this before.  You want to always be in the phase of building up, of making more.  But decay is necessary, it is necessary that life return to its component physical parts and that one thing feed another.  And you shun and are terrified of age — of lines, of grey hair — because it whispers about death.  It is the putrefaction of the feelings that is dangerous.  lt is the shriveling and the decay of inner generosity and love that is dangerous, not the body decaying when it die,s or a face changing as the years pass. 
   And the impulse to falsely preserve a look of youth is also a kind of stagnation and putrefaction of the feeling.  Life races through you spontaneously.  If you smile, you’ll get lines.  See?  You could keep your face perfectly still.  (laughter)  And that is like a mask, yes?  Like a death mask.  To really be empowered is to dance through all the ages of life. 
   Now it is true in other times, in Atlantis, they understood, as part of their life, about regenerative processes. They were not engaged in to preserve a false look of youth but rather as a sort of ecology of the body.  You die very young in your culture, you use up a lot of bodies.  [laughter] There were buildings in Atlantis and the use of crystals and sound and color that were used there for healing and for regenerative purposes.  Now you would make it into a youth farm.  You would be shooting up monkey glands.  But they really did it out of a sense of ecology.
   Death is a secret because you are afraid.  And you hide death away. Most of you in your lifetime have not been with very many people as they passed over. And we have said this before, it would be most valuable to train people, as was done in other cultures, to be guides, and to bridge the time when the energy leaves the body, to be in the hospitals, to be in hospices, to be in homes with people dying.  Dying is part of the cycle of being born and dying, and truly it is an illusion.  It is a real illusion.  To train people to help others across would be most valuable.  And to speak of the energies that meet you after the body goes, the great love, the great joy, the great peace, and celebration.  We assure you there is nothing to fear.
   Death will come out of the closet only if you talk about it, if you make it present.  And if you add, in your talking you add to its presence that spirit goes on, energy goes on.  You are in a lot of trouble because you don’t know how to deal with decay, with recycling, with garbage.  You have just mounted it up, and mounted it up, and mounted it up because you make more or everything and then throw all the rest away.  The poor planet is full of garbage, and now you are filling space with garbage.  But you have severed the connection, and you can bring it back.  And it would be good to work on it, to meditate on it, the connection of all the portions of the cycle, to say to one’s older parents — although one can die at any time, leave the body at any time — “Yes, you will be dying.  How shall we deal with that?  What would you like?  Shall we speak in dream time after you go?  Can I help you?” People who fear dying least of all are children.
   Now the separation between people, between families in relationship, is something you are dealing with now, in this time, that is relatively unique.  How to deal with it?  Well, you can communicate.  You can create other families than biological families.  You all have created, in one way, a family.  You can contact people in meditation.  The sense of intimate contact, however, that one had in a tribal situation is disrupted.  But really, you are trying to move toward making a world family.  That’s the thrust.  A world family and then maybe a galactic family.  You are not the only consciousness in this galaxy, you know.  The spiritual truth is that everything is connected.  The energetic truth, the truth in physics as you understand it today, is that everything is connected to everything else, yes?  But psychologically it is important to make boundaries.  Well, this is true.  You have cultural understandings about boundaries, however.  The Native American people’s understanding of boundaries and separation is very different from yours, the contemporary Chinese people’s understanding is very different from yours, the Middle Eastern understanding is very different.  You somehow see separation as rupture, or as isolation, and there is not a grace between the ecstasy of intimacy and a moving apart.  Great emphasis is put by you all on individuation, but that is only one of very many possibilities.  And often in your eagerness to individuate, to be separate from your parents, from your families, you lose respect for the internal sense of responsibility and caring, because it is all part of you.


   Julie:  That’s all for now.  In class, when a session is over, we go through the material and talk about it, and work out how it could be used in ordinary life since all of this material was given in order to be used.
   Several final words. The thread that runs through my work of, which the channeling is one aspect, is healing. So, the thread of healing goes through my work with individuals, my teaching, my lecturing, my writing. And that healing, I believe, comes from a truthful exploration of one’s relationship with spirit. Spirit heals through us, and that healing enables us to be with the sacred nature of everyday life. I urge you to use your prayers and meditations toward experiencing the joy and sacred nature of life itself.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”