MICCIAH CHANNEL: JULIE WINTER
Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 26, 1985

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1985 where Micciah answers questions from the class:
• Micciah’s intro: Your personal life is a song and produces an effect that matters. View Section
• How do we handle the apparent conflict in personal relationships between the pursuit of loving intimacy and the search for self-actualization? View Section
How do we heal the current terrorism and violence, and the pattern of creating wars? What is the meaning of it?... “Begin with beingness.” View Section


   Micciah:  We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie:  We do greet you, indeed.  This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter.  Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance,  and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm.  This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes.  We want to expand our circle, and include your energy and interest in our work.

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   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends. Circumstances and worldly events rise and fall. The events, the circumstances, the intersections, or one group of possibilities with another group of possibilities are always communicating. It is a great cosmic song. And your own personal life is also a song, created by you, by the totality of your consciousness. And when you gather to do healing work, or do it in your own meditations, you add something precious to the song that is there forever. We will tell you again that your voices produce an effect. When your mind says, “Oh, you are not important,” or even when your heart wonders, “Can I be important, can this matter?” It does matter. It matters so much. Everything counts. Virtually nothing is wasted. Nothing.
   Yes, what are your questions? You have many questions.

   Sally: It seems sometimes that the pursuit of a loving relationship on an intimate level conflicts with the search for self-actualization. This conflict, is it typical? And, it seems that you must give up in order to receive and does Micciah feel that the partnership is worth it, with another person?

   Micciah: It often seems as if there is a conflict. In creating intimacy you’re really allowing intimacy to flourish. There’s a conflict. Sometimes a conflict seems to appear between the profession and the relationship, or the pursuit of one’s inner work, one’s spiritual path and the relationship, or a geographical conflict. The answer is that you don’t give anything up to have a relationship, that in one whole and complete person, sharing with another whole and complete person, there is a way, through working with each other, to yield more than twice the possibilities. But when the individuals clutch on to particular patterns, when there is a kind of withholding, then the two withholding elements bump, yes? Intimacy is about surrender and transparency. The more dense your being, in the sense of the heaviness of old patterns and outworn needs, the more withholding and clashing there will be, and the more the mind will say, “Well. I must give something up to make this work.” Don’t pursue that as a path, nor pursue the theme that became so popular in the sixties. which was, “I do my thing, and you do your thing,” because that also, while it is somewhat preferable, doesn’t work. The joyful pursuit of yielding — which renders up tremendous excitement — yielding, not capitulation, not collapse, not manipulation, but yielding the part of the self that is afraid and that wants to hold on to its ideas. It takes time. It takes time, it takes patience — not a popular word, hm? — in an era of gratification that comes instantly: food, entertainment, clothes. Oh, relationships take great elegance and patience. We can hear your minds shutting off, [laughter] like little radios, click. Meditation supports patience with vitality. Not with long suffering. So, with patience and with risk-taking you can surrender, you can yield into transparency. When you have an orgasm, you are transparent in a sense, yes? It is as if the density of the body, for a few moments, becomes sheer, and sparkles, explodes. That is what we mean by yielding. So, no. No, the two are not in conflict. It may come up in a relationship, this kind of conflict, another kind of conflict, but it is to be worked on, to be worked with, to be experimented with. And you do not ever need to convince anyone of your spiritual beliefs. “Beliefs” is not a good word. “Experiences.” You are the fruit of them, you are the living expression of them.

   Please go on.

   Maria: Many of us here have a question about he political situation in the world today. There seems o be a great deal of terrorism, bombings, hijackings, all over the planet. And we would like to know what that’s about and how we can participate in healing it. And there’s also a second part to that question, I think.

   Priscilla: Okay, the second part is that we seem to be perpetuating a pattern of creating wars over either religious objects — a cup, a shrine — or a piece of land.

   Micciah: Yes.

   Priscilla: What is the meaning of that and have you any comments you have about it?

   Micciah: Well, you have unwittingly, or perhaps not unwittingly, asked three things that are related because the relationships that you have as beings on this planet is, on a grand scale, analogous to the relationships you have between you as individuals. So in a relationship between two people, when one person says, “I love you very much, but this is my cup [laughter]; and I would like to be intimate with you, but I suspect that you are trying to take my cup; and I am going to write a prenuptial agreement to protect my cup, because, after all, I know what’s valuable, even though I love you, and you must protect your cup. And don’t think I a ever going to trade cups with you, either, because mine is better, and I will protect it any way I can [laughter]. I will ruin this relationship to protect what is valuable, even though I love you.” [laughter]
   On a very grand scale it is funny, and it is also tragic and heartbreaking, because it is no more sensible, no more truthful, to protect land which you imagine you own (you do not own land), to protect ideas. To kill for land, for ideas, for beliefs is a magnified version of the individual in relationship who says “No, it is not you and I who are important. [pats her cup] Right here. It is my cup.” So there is a grave distortion, and the feelings of love, of the love of God, or spirit, or the person, become projected, in frozen form, projected onto the holy ground. And then the real love is lost. And rather than protecting the love, nourishing it, surrendering into it, being in ecstasy with it, being ordinary with it, all of the energies gather in a sort of vast torment to protect what is no more valuable than this cup. And when human beings in groups become lost in the projection, then the force of all the feelings, the personal feelings, the feelings bounded by the ego, become mobilized to protect what has been mistakenly deemed to be valuable, more valuable than life. You say what is crazy, what is insanity. Which was — we know because we heard it before — which was your other question. That is insanity! To sacrifice one life for a piece of gold, that is insanity.
   What can you do? You need to begin where you are. That is the only place to begin. To pay attention, all of you, and all of you watching, pay attention with love. Where in your own life are you holding onto your cup? Where are you protecting what is of no value? What within you feels so threatened that you will give up tenderness, contact, and love, for the sake of…  what? Of nothing. There are ramifications. Sometimes people will die rather than surrender to an alien idea. But nothing can take your inner life from you. And the very fact that one group of people wishes to coerce another group into believing, that fact alone displays the way in which you put things in opposition. There’s plenty of room in consciousness for this and that. It doesn’t have to be this or that. That is the conundrum of this plane of action: apparent opposition resolved by the transparency, the encompassing quality of paradox. The violence that has exploded in the last few weeks, and will continue, has magnetized itself around a core that represents the unexpressed violence of everybody. You see it as one group against another group, this faction against that faction, but this faction contain the seeds of your own consciousness. And it is like a vomiting out of what is toxic at the group level, manifested through certain individuals  So you see, this is what’s there. You continue to believe that you are mysteriously disconnected from all of this, yes? Yes. It is always “out there.” You can only begin with a responsibility here. Here. Here. There. It seems insignificant. In the face of the monster, your little meditation seems insignificant, but we tell you it is not. And to begin where you can begin is far more powerful than going into collapse and saying, “I have nothing to offer.”
   You might talk in this group some time about your violence. You are a very peace-loving group, but you have your own violences, hidden. Some of them come out as diseases in your culture. The violence of cancer, and the violence of the way you treat it, yes? Poisons, vicious poisons! Disfiguring surgery. So, the healing comes from within. Just as the apparent outer level reflects what is within in the case of violence, so it reflects what is within in the case of peace. Sometimes events cluster, so you can see more clearly, the way a growth of cancer will suddenly cluster, yes? Suddenly there will be a growth, wild cells, wildness, violence confronted by violence. You can also work through whatever you believe, politically. There are social actions that you can take, but those alone will not ameliorate the inner torment.
   These are very serious questions. You tend naturally to wish to do something. We say again, begin with beingness. “Oh, but that is boring. It is not like being out there doing something.” Begin with beingness! And make a commitment then from your beingness to do one action that is oriented toward your own social group, or awareness.
   We wish to say one thing before we leave, because all of this information is so hard to hear, so hard to be with. And that is that you can hold it all as perfect, that everything, perhaps in a mysterious way, can bring you to the face of love. Everything. And the practice you have in meditating, in working with yourselves, in opening your hearts, in sharing, (the word has become very over used but…) the transparency in your being with each other, and the caring which ripples out and affects everything is all very important. And all of you watching also. It is very important. It is all perfect. And you are all engaged in the ecstasy of revealing bare reality and love.
   We will bid you good evening.
   We share with you much love and much energy. We thank Rubin for his patience and his presence. And we bid you a good evening.

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   Julie:  That’s all for the moment. At the end of class we discuss the information that Micciah has shared and talk about how to use it in ordinary life since all of this information was given to be used.
   Several final words. The thread that runs through my work of, which the channeling is one aspect, is healing. So, the thread of healing goes through my work with individuals, my teaching, my lecturing, my writing. And that healing, I believe, comes from a truthful exploration of one’s relationship with spirit. Spirit heals through us, and that healing enables us to be with the sacred nature of everyday life. I urge you to use your prayers and meditations toward experiencing the joy and sacred nature of life itself.

ONSCREEN VISUAL DISCLAIMER:
   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”