MICCIAH CHANNEL: JULIE WINTER
Produced by Jon Child
Transcript of Program 34, 1985
Some of Julie’s early work in channel where Micciah discusses:
• The meaning and effect of sound on our bodies and in our culture. View Section
• Healing with sound. View Section
• Exploring the communication of symptoms rather than just getting rid of them. View Section
Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.
Julie: We do greet you, indeed. This is Micciah Channel, and I'm Julie Winter. Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I'm in trance, and while I'm in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm. This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes. We want to expand our circle, and include your energy and interest in our work.
The question about music is: what is the effect of music on the soul? What different kinds of music have, what effect do different kinds of music have, on people?
Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends, on this very warm night in October.
You have asked about music. Music elicits the possible or reinforces deadness in a profound way. Music affects the cells. The intelligence, the life, the creativity of your cells is aroused with music. We have said before, the cells sing and the bones and the organs and all of the energy centers in your body have complex and simple sounds. Singing for healing, chanting, sounding, from your own creative source into another being's creative source is effective beyond your wildest dreams. Playing instruments. Does not have to be in a formal way. To experiment with it. To let your hands and arms and backbone sing. Breathe out with sound. You can chant people into birth. It would be wonderful to have chanting at birth and also at the birth into the other realms, which you call dying. There is a hunger for sound which is filled by music, popular music, and also by the television when it is not watched, when there is just sound. It is a symptom of a hunger for the contact of sound, but that is really very poor sound, very low quality. There is a hunger for the company, the accompaniment of loving sound. And, you know, parents croon naturally to their children, and babies sing before they talk. Everything sings - plants and crystals, buildings, architectural spaces. You can discover the various sounds of your soul, both by listening to outer music and by creating inner music. Much popular music comes from a hunger for deep contact with sounds that resonate with the emotional body. To use a model, some sounds, probably all sounds, resonate with the physical body. Some sounds impact very directly on the emotional body. Some are a pleasure to the mind and the feelings. We cannot encourage you enough to make sounds. Your schooling shuts you up. And then when children become larger and reach the rebelliousness of adolescence, what do they do? They find a music that is their sound. To keep children still in school is terrible, a terrible deprivation. The sounds of voices also have a healing quality. Sound comes from the core of the being. The voice.
Margaret: Micciah, what do you mean when you say that the cells sing?
Micciah: They have real sounds. If you pay attention, particularly those of you who are involved directly with healing, with your inner hearing - you can move your hands over someone's body, or simply attune - you will hear, hear, the difference between a healthy gall bladder and a diseased one. Sound and chanting, which have been used in rituals since the beginning of what you call time, affect the cells. And you can make an inner sound offered to what you hear that will start to balance them. Crystals work partially through the sound that they make, to your physical ear inaudible, but to the inner ear audible. So the right crystal over the gall bladder, let us say, will start to tune. The strength of the crystal will begin to draw the cells into alignment. We understand that in a cultural context this sounds completely absurd. Try it! Try it, it's possible. And herbs have sounds and can be matched by their tone to the tone, the healing tone of an organ, or a center, or a meridian. And the clay of the earth has sound; healing clays not only affect with their minerals but they have sound. Sound is the glue of the universe; it holds everything together.
Karl: Are there techniques that we can begin to use to open up our inner hearing?
Micciah: Yes. The techniques you are going to use in class in conjunction with the luminous body will be easy steps. "Oh, this is boring, we want something superb." Start listening to the sounds of your body with your inner ear. The inner hear in your culture tends to be the least developed of the nonphysical senses. Inner sight and inner sensing are more clearly developed. So start there. Sing back to your body, to your feet, to your hands, to your liver. It doesn't have to be pretty, you know, it can be (a hiss, a growl, a snarl). It doesn't have to be sweet sounds. So... Danger has a sound, safety has a sound. You don't listen. Sound - we don't mean classical music of one culture or another but the sound, music - also has the capacity to go through all the cultural barriers, and this is easily seen in the great demonstrations that have come about in your culture, the great healing concerts. There was one recently where the focus of bringing people together past all their objections and viewpoints, was sound. Singing. Something very deep responds. Singing, chanting, intoning, humming, barking, howling, inner sound, outer sound. And you can tell if someone is allergic to something, if you can hear inner sound, by holding it (the substance) near a person. It is somewhat similar to kinesiology. You can hear whether a person's tone will match with the tone of what you're giving him or her.
So, please continue.
Michael: I have one question, Micciah. I, and everybody that I know, and most of the whole world, it seems, deals with the things in our lives as if they, the symptoms, are the things we actually have to deal with. If we have a cold, we want to get rid of the cold. If we have cancer or something serious, we want to get rid of the cancer. Or in a relationship that doesn't work, we want the person to stop doing what they're doing. Even as far up as the bomb. We never look at these things as if they're trying to tell us something, and never understand how we're sourcing these things in our lives.
Micciah: It is consciousness of obliteration, Yes?
Michael: The same is even true for the good things. We don't see the good things in our lives and wonder how we create them. We think that we're lucky. We basically take the things that are in our lives as symptoms and deal with them as if they're the whole message, not as if there's any message in them that we want to look at or listen to. That's as much a part of the human condition, to have it be impossible to listen beyond just the level of symptomology. I often wonder if perhaps it's not appropriate for us to pursue listening at some other level, to begin to see into the symptoms for things that they're trying to tell us.
Micciah: Know that everything you have created - louder and louder and louder, until you get to the vast annihilating sound of the bomb - is trying to get you to listen!
Micciah: You create a bigger and bigger explosion until you finally can hear. And in your personal lives you create explosions to hear. To hear. The technique of obliteration [pound sound]. Obliterate the symptom, obliterate (thump) the enemy. This is related also to your question, Maria, about revenge. What happens when justice is infused with the desire for revenge, which is a kind of obliteration? So...
You are here to find out about the symptom as a communication. And all of the symptoms, all over, are your own communications from the self to the self, interoffice [laughter]. And the noise, the noise, has gotten to be immense. The whirring and grinding of all the machines, planes, submarines, power stations (good word) the whirring and the clanking and the screaming is greater than it has ever been in the history of this planet. So you are both inundated with sound and deafened. If you listen to the voice of things, of circumstances, of relationships, what are they singing to you? Listen to the voice of the communication, not with your linear mind but with your heart, and you will begin to unravel the interlocking holocaust of screaming communication. Don't you think that cells scream when they are dosed with chemicals, lethal chemicals, either for healing purposes or in the course of your living? The body yells out its protests, and you imagine that it is, what? Accident, luck. The body also yells out its jubilation.
If you can observe the communication of everything in your life, minus the judgment - that is what tears at you, the self-hater, the self-hating "eeugh, eeugh," the self-blame - if you can start to move blame out of the way, and listen and sense with your heart, see with your inner eye, you will experience the communication of the symptom. Physical objects and physical circumstances are a result. They do not cause each other. What you are talking about, Michael, is the misperception, the cultural trance, that one physical thing causes another physical thing, rather than experiencing that all physicality results first from an invisible body of intention, a luminous body if you will. So it is one result (slam) banging into another result. And when you behave as if those elements are causing each other, you are lost and trapped in the mechanical aspect of life, where there is no solution. Spies proliferate more spies and counterspies with counterspies and counterspies. And drugs with side effects that have drugs for the side effects of the drugs of the side effects. And doctors for the drugs that have side effects for the diseases that were treated with drugs. This is true! This is true! But you are beginning to look for the communication, to try to listen for the communication encoded in the symptom.
Michael: The balance of my question is not so much why is it so difficult for us to hear that, but is it actually possible for human beings to learn this? Can we as a culture learn this?
Micciah: Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely, unequivocally, short answer. Yes.
Michael: Thank you.
Micciah: The shortest answer you'll ever get.
Michael: And it's all right if it's difficult.
Micciah: It's even all right if it's not difficult [laughter].
Maria: I'd like to ask a follow-up question about the sounds of our culture. I have recently been finding the sounds of our culture almost intolerable, lately. The sound of the subway, the sound of a truck going by, an ambulance, almost as if I can hear my cells screaming. I just can't stand it. Can you suggest anything to help heal that, or make it more tolerable, since it probably won't go away?
Micciah: You could go a number of routes, depending on your personality. You could embrace cacophony. Not likely for your personality [laughter]. You can carry crystals - clear quartz is good - and you can make an inner sound. "This one" when she is nervous chants very softly, finds inner sounds that are soothing. Plus which if it is noticeable, you will get a seat on the subway [laughter].
You can chant to yourself as a way of keeping centered. You can soften your breathing, rather than going into an alarm response. You can be in the subway with soft breathing and chanting, gently, to yourself. Keep your awareness focused here, a little below the navel, drop your breathing down into this center, and the sounds will more bounce off than be absorbed. It is a very loud city, with a great many demanding sounds. On the other hand, there are city people who go to the country and are driven mad by the birds. If you can find some time during the day to be quiet, that is also like a balm in a very noisy, stressful environment. A lot of the lights have sounds, you know. Fluorescent lights make sound, and electrical things make sound, which affects your body. The body is so nervous in this culture, in this environment, partially in response to the 60-cycle sounding. This is sort of irritating.
Karl: In our group, we've been meditating to heal the earth, and part of our chanting has been that. We've also been specifically working to aid in the healing of AIDS.
Karl: Is there a sound consciousness or a sound vibration that we could use to support the energy that we're trying to put into the universe?
Micciah: Yes. You should do them separately. Do the earth, and then do the city, and then do AIDS, because they are different sounds. You can experiment as a group with which sounds you feel connected in terms of healing the earth. Do one and then one and then one. There are no prescribed sounds, but your intuition of a song for healing the earth would be different from that of a song for healing the city, or AIDS. You can also chant an intention into being. If you meditate, if you meditate on creating something, a healing, whether it is a healing for prosperity or for the body, for relationship, you can chant it into being, you can dance it into being. In this culture.... We sound so critical of this culture, but we are trying to right some imbalances. You cut it off here. You don't associate healing movement and healing sound with healing. You have it all here (in the head), that you have to think it or meditate it, but you can move with it, do a dance for healing the earth. This is going to sound like those old Jules Feiffer cartoons. Nevertheless, it's true.
We share with you much love, and much appreciation for your courage in continuing to reveal yourselves. And we bid you a very joyful evening.
Julie: Channelling is a little like that. [Her cat, Hummingbird, perched on top of a wire fence.] That's the end for now. What we do in class at the end of a session is go over the information, talk about it, evaluate it, find out what works for us individually and what doesn't, and we invite you to do the same.
Several final words. The thread that runs through my work of, which the channeling is one aspect, is healing. So, the thread of healing goes through my work with individuals, my teaching, my lecturing, my writing. And that healing, I believe, comes from a truthful exploration of one's relationship with spirit. Spirit heals through us, and that healing enables us to be with the sacred nature of everyday life. I urge you to use your prayers and meditations toward experiencing the joy and sacred nature of life itself.
Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”