Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 67, 1987

Some of Julie’s early work in 1986 where Micciah discusses:
“You contain within yourselves everything you will ever need to know about traveling what seems to be the mystery of your existence.” View Section
Detachment and emotions: Judging and repressing feelings causes attachment and ‘getting stuck.’ “You can liberate yourself to be in the possibility of new choices by letting yourself fall into your feelings and trusting that they will carry you where you need to go.” View Section
Our culture’s alienation from the deep inner animal part of ourselves: This part is our aliveness. “You have tried to straighten everything. In so doing, you have lost your nourishment.” View Section

   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie: We do greet you, indeed. This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter. Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance, and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm. This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes. We want to expand our circle,and include your energy and interest in our work.


   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends. [pause] You contain within your selves everything you will ever need to know [pause] about unraveling what seems to be the mystery of your existence. And this form of voyaging that you call at the moment channeling can only tell you what with some part of you you already know. To say, to imagine that all the noise is out there and you are trying to get it, or seek it, find it, feel yourself with it.
   Imagining that you are going from emptiness of yearning to nourishment by getting someone to tell you what you don’t know is an illusion. I can only tell you what you already know. In the dancing of all your perceptions, not only are there many realms outside the physical; but right within this world as you perceive it there are many physical universes. Do you understand? You are able to hear only what you know. You cannot know what you do not know. And you are all creating the world as you go along. [exhale]
   The deep intelligence and trustworthiness of “all that is” is inside of you, so to speak. What you conceive of as inside. And it is very interesting to notice how, when there is a lack of experience of connectedness, you have separated yourself from what you know about being part of the web, then you create a set of beliefs, and the beliefs often come from what you perceive of as outside. A person, a prophet, a book. And the belief becomes like a thing to which you attach. The log that will hold you up in drifting waters, yes. And, uh, you are then stuck with fending off people who have other contradictory beliefs. And you have lost your inner richness and dynamism and your capacity to spin, to pull out of no where and no thing what is exquisitely right for you. [pause]
   So... Please, what would you like to discuss?

   Man: Hi Micciah. I’d like to discuss detachment as a means to solving problems in your life, to pulling away from an emotionalism which can be overbearing at times. And also a how-to question. Of how to become detached without denying and without pulling yourself away from the world.

   Micciah: So when beliefs become things, when you turn the juiciness of an experience into the deadness or the haranguing of a belief, you become attached to the belief, yes? You understand this as a model. When you are... It is not when you are in deep feeling about something, about a situation, that you feel attached to it. It is a little more complicated than that.
   Deep feeling, falling into your..., the wave of your own feelings, is trustworthy, and it carries you through into the next feeling. It is fear and judgment about a particular feeling or set of feelings that causes you to clamp down, so to speak, to try to shut off the feeling, to push it away. And, uh, the attachment is to your judgment about the danger, for whatever reason, of having a certain feeling. We will give you an example, before we get lost in the abstraction. Suppose you are very much loving someone, and you feel angry with them. And you have a judgment that anger itself is suspect, then you will resist falling into your anger and letting it carry you where it will; you are attached to your notion of how you must be, your belief about how you must be when you love someone. Or you are frightened that if you are angry they will reject you, or whatever. And the more you try to push away a feeling, the tighter into the situation you become. There is a little child’s toy, like a basket, yes?, with an opening at both ends. You put your fingers in. The more you pull them apart, the more they are held together. So, paradoxically, you cannot detach by trying to push your feelings away. You can liberate yourself to be in the movement of, the possibility of new choices by letting yourself fall into your feelings and trusting that they will carry you where you need to go. And at the end of the wave of the feeling, there is a release that is a natural centering of self and therefore detachment.
   This is a very complex and subtle issue. We are only talking about one little fragment of it. Mostly, as a culture, you are frightened of your self as animal. You have a bad opinion of animals. Or sometimes a sentimentalized version, but... Um. There is another kind of detachment, and it also depends on your being willing to ride through your feelings. You know, if you have backed up feelings, you’ve stuffed down your rage for a long time, stuffed it back, sat on it, you may well be frightened, you may need assistance to let some of that out in a safe way so you don’t blast yourself apart. If you can fall into your feelings, then you develop naturally a quality of spaciousness that allows you to be compassionate toward yourself and to observe not only your feelings but more your judgments with compassion and compassionate detachment. “I am watching my judgments. I am observing how I feel flung about by my judgments. I know I am not my judgments. I am not my judgments.” Do you understand?

   Man: Yes.

   Micciah: So, trust in feeling carries you through. And your feelings are only your feelings. That’s all. Your feelings are your feelings, your thoughts are your thoughts. They’re only your feelings. Your feelings aren’t you, either. They ride through you like weather rides through the environment. You have many many judgments about feelings that render some of them desirable, others of them unacceptable. It’s very tricky, maneuvering in there. It is the attachment to the judgments you have that, uh, solidifies things so you can’t move. “I can’t choose that feeling. I can’t choose that possibility over there. Unhuh. That’s a bad one. Can’t choose that one, that’s a bad one. That’s a bad one, that’s a bad one. I can only have this one or this one.” [exhale] There is much to be said on this subject.
   How do you create spaciousness? By trusting. How do you create trust? [laughs] By risking. How do you create risk? How do you allow risk? At some point you let yourself fall. It isn’t a how-to question. If you are afraid, you can do it in small pieces. You are not prepared... If you are afraid in a relationship, if you are afraid of intimacy, you are not prepared to suddenly burst forth and reveal all. It would be too much. You can risk in small ways.
   So... Do you want to ask further about that?

   Man: Um, no.

   Mary Lou: Can I ask a question about what you were describing in the context?

   Micciah: Yes.

   Mary Lou: The fear of the animal in this culture. And that aspect of ourselves. Is there more...

   Micciah: You have separated yourselves as a culture... The cultural trance has attempted, in fact has willfully separated itself, you, from, as we have said before, the wiggly universe, from the wetness and darkness and interweaving of everything. You have an inner and an outer sky, an inner and an outer earth. Ground. You live, truly, whether you think so or not, you are woven to everything. And the beginning of all the worlds lies inside the tiniest particle of your body. You are all the animals, you are all the stars. You contain it all.
   In this time in history you have torn yourself away from the inner sky and from your relationship, your weaving, to the outer sky, the outer earth, to the animals, to the waters. We’ve talked about this before. Some of you who are watching, you say, “Oh, they’re talking about that again.” But it is still true, it doesn’t go away because we stop talking about it. So, you have built straight buildings, straight roads. You have tried to straighten everything. And in doing so, you have lost your nourishment. So the animal part of the self is always threatening to burst free the aliveness that you have not managed [thump] to straighten out! You even have an expression, yes? “Straighten out!” It means to be healthy — No one says “Wiggle out!” — it means to do things right! The straight and narrow. Square buildings. Square money. Square tombstones. So, your feelings are the place... The feeling body, the emotional body is where it all threatens to explode into chaos and wobbling and blood and guts and water and, uh, ecstasy. So that’s the one you work for, to keep it in, yes? You have all these judgments, to go back to what you were talking about. So when the animal self pops up, what is it doing at a board meeting? [laughter] “Get this rat out of here! Get this lion out of here.” You are trying to kill the wisdom of the animal. That’s a description. It doesn’t answer any particular question.

   Mary Lou: It sounds like the denial of the connectedness and then the deep feelings, the denial of the deep feelings that are part of the connectedness.

   Micciah: Yes. And you have a judgment about having the feeling. You try to deny it. The more you deny it, the more you are run by it. The more you trust in your feeling nature and in your animal wisdom, the more possibilities you have available.
   We are not down on thinking or on logic or on what is that quality that spins thoughts and ideas. That’s not the trouble. The trouble is in the murder of the animal, the wise animal of the self, connected to the earth and the sky and the water, the growing things. What you do in the name of reasonableness is insane, let alone irrational, yes? Creating lethal weapons in order to enforce peace, the peacefulness, is clearly.... clearly this is not rational. Poisoning the planet in order to have electric knife sharpeners is not rational.
   We will leave you now. There is a very intricate weaving in this session. Layers and layers. We share with you much energy and much love, and we bid you all a very good day.


   Julie: I want to remind you that the channeling that I do with Micciah is really an ongoing exploration; in watching and listening, you’re part of the exploration. So the work is here and it is our intention to share it with those of you who watch. You need to evaluate it for yourselves, to go over the information, to assess what feels right to you, use what feels right and let the rest go.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”