Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 72, 1987

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1987 where Micciah discusses Trust and Fear
• The physical world is about learning trust in the dimension of time. View Section
Different kinds of fear: Physical and emotional debilitation can begin in childhood due to chronically being afraid of abuse. This leads to fear being projected onto other things, people, experiences in the outside world. There is also appropriate protective fear which is a warning to take care of yourself. In great spiritual awakening, a being can be “so close to spirit that (it) is clear that all danger is an illusion.” View Section
Mistaking excitement for fear: Often when the life energy has been punished in childhood, excitement becomes confused with fear. You can learn to feel the pleasure of excitement and calm the fear. View Section

   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie: We do greet you, indeed. This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter. Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance, and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm. This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes. We want to expand our circle and include your energy and interest in our work.


   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends. What you know and what you feel need to be expressed and completed by putting them, thoughts and feelings, out, into action. The physical world and its mystery is about trust. The unlocking of what seems to be the, the grabbing together, what is this, weaving, of the impenetrability of physical events, the unlocking of those events, to peer into the compassion behind them is dependent on a quality of vital trust. Risk-taking. To be able to plunge into life takes trust. And, although it is possible to be opened in a moment to cosmic love — if you will forgive the expression, the somewhat over-used expression — you can open in a moment to that love. It happens in experiences of awakening, in deep experiences of meditating. Sometimes right in the middle of nowhere — trust is one of the qualities that develops and is tested in time.
   Why do you have a realm where there appears to be time? Particularly when we keep on saying, this channel keeps on saying, “Well, there is no time.” What is its use? One of its uses is as a teaching device. You can only learn trust through a confrontation with and a melting into events, or resisting them or cursing them, but only in time. And loyalty and intimacy. Patience. All have to do with the way you unwrap in the dimension of time.
   So, please what are your questions?

   Eve: My question has to do with fear, which in a way I suppose is the opposite of trust. But is there a good side to fear?

   Micciah: Yes. Like so many words in your language, you use one word as if it were always the same thing. And even the words that describe the same thing, a cup, or a hand, there are not any two hands that look alike, they are all recognizable as hands, cups come in an almost infinite variety. So when you talk about fear as if it represented a single state, this is misleading. So, we will discuss several kinds of fear.
   The most basic kind of fear is a biological contraction, biological and biochemical, involving the neurology and involving the organs, a real physiological contraction in response to a life-threatening situation. And from that, other fears are extrapolated. If a child is constantly threatened emotionally, that threat registers as if it were a threat of annihilation.
   No, we are not being clear.
   You have this original fear that is organized as a protection, so then you can either fight the enemy, after the freezing of fear, if you are going to fight, or you are going to run, you have the cold contraction of fear and then a rush of adrenalin, yes? Which empowers you to run away or to fight. When a child is threatened emotionally, chronically threatened, it is as if that response is being triggered again and again; even though the child is not in any physical danger of annihilation it registers in the emotional body as if there were a threat to the child’s life. Then there begins to be a biochemical buildup, a residual, if nothing offsets it, that is triggered all the time by circumstances further and further away from the original stimulus. So if someone was wearing red when you were afraid, the aspect of the self that is almost purely protective will remember red, possibly not like red, and begin to associate red with danger. We are oversimplifying somewhat, but you get the drift.
   Now, as the body lives in a chronic state of fear, there is great stress put on the immune system because of the flooding over and over again of adrenalin and the resulting exhausting of the adrenal glands, which has an impact on other systems in the body, and the weakest ones will be affected first. In the way that you imprison children in schools, in a punitive and competitive atmosphere, where the natural vitality of the body is short-circuited — Children were not meant to sit still in their bodies. And they are threatened intellectually and emotionally threatened — there is a constant debilitation of the system because fear is almost ever present in various degrees. Does this make sense so far?

   Eve: Yes it does.

   Micciah: So then when there is no metaphysical or spiritual training — which we will get to in a moment, that is one way of balancing these responses — so then you get many bodies chronically in a state of fear, and the fear has a pecu..., in this culture it has a peculiar toxic edge, it is not like a fear, the fear in a forest, or a fear of a bear. You can track a bear and the bear has reliable habits, more or less. And although the bear might get you, that is true, you can develop bear wisdom and work it out so you don’t tangle up with the bear. Not failsafe, but you know what it’s coming from. When fear comes seemingly at random, toward a child as it would in a war or in the emotional warring of many families, it sprouts here, it sprouts there, it comes at you when you don’t know it is going to come, you have a chronic weakened condition; and then the psychological aspect of the self starts to project, to see through screen, where many many things in what you call the outside world are perceived as threatening. Other people, other races, other religions, people with less money, people with more money. And, this kind of unadulterated self-protective fear leaks into everything, but it is not claimed as the original unhealed fear, it is claimed as... sound battle strategy. Or, the necessity for keeping vast arsenals of weapons, ostensibly to keep the peace, to be protected by weaponry. (You are in much more danger of the weapons than you are of anything else, of the people.)
   You see, it becomes projected, the whole world becomes a threat. The mind rationalizes that, does not take responsibility for the fear and projects it, and says it is “out there!” And then there are philosophies built around it. “I must fear you because I am a Jew and you are a Christian.” “I must fear you because I am white and you are black.” And vice versa. And that is enacted, yes? It certainly looks frightening. So...
   Then this same distortion applies when intimacy starts to unfold between two people. “But you may hurt me.” And you have in your culture evolved various therapies, some effective, some less effective, to try to deal with what really is a chronic condition of fear. And although healing needs to take place on the emotional level, the greater healing takes place through nourishing trust that surpasses understanding. And also a sense of the spirit seed within yourself, that you are important and precious, because that sense of inner worth is damaged in the original situation.
   Is this clear?

   Class: Yes.

   Micciah: When you don’t respect yourself, feel yourself to be precious and worthy, then you cannot be with others in that frame. There is useful fear as a warning system, if you can get some of the other chronic fear healed. Something that warns you, for instance when you are in the process of healing in the emotional realm. You go back into a situation that is pernicious, you go back into a family, let us say, where there is a deep spell, a trance, within the family, of attack and counterattack. Then your healing emotional body will be like a sunburn. You say, “This place is dangerous for me right now. I can’t be here right now.” It is not necessary to be abusive towards the situation. But it may be necessary to use the fear, which has become less chronic and is more decipherable, to take you away while you heal further, to take you away from that situation. As the healing progresses and as you open yourself to spiritual awareness, awakening, compassion, service, you may then find you can return to that situation and be relatively peaceful within it. So, fear can be a useful warning, but when it is chronically stimulated, you can no longer decipher what is the useful warning and what is the system running overtime. So, that doesn’t even begin to answer or to respond, but we will go on.

   Class: Thank you.

   Man: It seems that fear is as difficult to define as love is. Umm. Are there other feelings that can be mistaken for fear? And how can we identify them?

   Micciah: Ah, yes. Well, the one that is most often mistaken for fear, is excitement. But there is another quality to this, you see. If you have been brutalized emotionally, then it means that your life energy has been in some way regarded with hatred. The springing out of your life as a child, your development, your needs, your bounciness. You say, “Well, this sounds very critical.” It’s all part of the unfolding, and we aren’t meaning to be critical, but still the experience of, of a distorted family system, perhaps experiences in school, the apparent outer world says to you, “Uennh, your life energy.” Perhaps the church. “Your life energy is dangerous! Your sexual feelings are sinful! Your ebullience — you must control it!” And that comes from other beings who are also in a chronic state of fear. And then, as you grow and change and push against some of the barriers in your growth, you come to liven again — that’s not quite right. You feel the quickening of your life energy. As the fear diminishes, the chronic fear diminishes, you start to feel good again. And that brings up excitement and it reactivates the old program, that is fear. Because as the life energy starts to move forward, a danger sound goes off. And although the physiological manifestations of excitement are somewhat like fear in that it can be an experience that is accompanied by adrenalin, it does not, excitement does not, have the deep contracting quality, the freezing quality that is the hallmark of that original fear. And as we say, the excitement of feeling alive again and the deep memories of the danger, the difficulties that befell you, because you felt alive, [clap] come together [clap]. And then you need a dual approach, a double strategy. To tolerate... To have the pleasure of the excitement and to be able to tolerate the fear and to calm, calm the child self, to say “No, no no. This time it is all right.” And sometimes even as an adult your life energy will not be appreciated, the avenues you take.
   This work [we do here together] is a form of life energy expressing itself. That’s all it is, it’s a conversation. It is a kind of conversation that human beings have had forever in one form or another. It is lively. And some people say, “Oh no, we don’t like life energy popping out in that direction, do we?” So, some people don’t like dancing, and some people don’t like sex, and some people are very frightened, many people, of what seems to be the unruliness — we use the word advisedly — of the life energy. Because it follows its own pattern. And when you begin to trust, deeply, in yourself, then your life follows its own pattern, and maybe it won’t be like that, square, or straight. So...
   We will leave you then. The other side of fear is trust. [laughter] We share with you all much energy and love, and we bid you a very good day.

   Class: Thank you, Micciah.


   Julie: I want to remind you that the channeling that I do with Micciah is really an ongoing exploration; in watching and listening, you’re part of the exploration. So the work is here and it is our intention to share it with those of you who watch. You need to evaluate it for yourselves, to go over the information, to assess what feels right to you, use what feels right and let the rest go.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”