Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 78, 1987

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1987 where Micciah discusses:
Negativity as a mode of behavior in life: This is often the result of deep emotional injury. As a healing, support that “deep sense of self-worth” that is always there beneath the fear and negativity. View Section
Purposes of resistance: It can be protection from painful memories or realizations; can be the “wily aspect of the self” that is having fun and doesn’t want to give it up though it’s unproductive; can be not wanting to acknowledge being wrong. View Section
The existence of spirit and its translation into form View Section
The meaning of the Harmonic Convergence, August 16 and 17, 1987: It is a time to “fertilize the seed, (which is)... the possibility of peace, healing, alignment with the One.” View Section

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   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie: We do greet you, indeed. This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter. Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance, and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm. This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes. We want to expand our circle and include your energy and interest in our work.


   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.
   Please, what would you like to discuss?

   Irwin: Micciah, I have a question about negativity. I’m aware in my life, both personal and professional, of people who seem to have an investment in negativity, and/or illness, which at some level is certainly the same thing. Interestingly enough, they don’t seem to me to be happy in their unhappiness, but they seem to be pretty well dedicated to it and invested in it. My question comes about how to honor who they are and where they are, and yet in addition to teaching by precept and example, how to do something along the lines of healing for that attitude.

   Micciah: We would like to say first that illness is not necessarily negativity. Illness can be part of a teaching from the self to the self. It is not necessarily negative. Hmmm. We have said before, perhaps even in this group, there are illnesses that are essentially life-affirming, that is, the entity chooses an illness, and the effect of that illness is to melt their heart, to help them relinquish their resistance to contact and to love and to vulnerability. So, it isn’t necessarily a negative thing.
   Now, what you are saying as we understand it is, when someone seems at the level of personality to be dedicated to life-denying patterns, how can you respect where they are and also support them to change the patterns? Is that what you are asking?

   Irwin: That’s correct.

   Micciah: All right. So, life-denying patterns are abusive patterns, yes? They involve a kind of contraction away from life that bespeaks fear and that has an abusive quality toward the self and toward the gift of life. Rather than collaring someone, and saying, “All right, you. You give up that negativity! [laughter] I can smell negativity a mile away and I don’t like it! You give it up! Get rid of it!” Which indeed some kinds of work do, some kinds of therapy do, and moreover some kinds of therapy thrive on negativity. Would put the therapists out of business without it. But to answer it generally — really, it is different with every person — to answer it generally, when you begin to concentrate on the areas where there is vitality, when you begin to support that person in their deep sense of self-worth, to encourage it. That dedication to spitefulness, or to negativity, to something that feels poisonous in the emotional body, is a result almost always of deep bruising in the inner sense, the inner sense of the self, so you go for that bruised child self, let us say. And start to encourage the child toward wellness, toward the wholeness that you know is present there, because it’s always there somewhere. As that grows, the other patterns will fall away. It is completely useless to demand that someone give up their negativity. Don’t even try, whether it’s with yourself or with a client if you are a therapist and a healer. It is like strengthening a plant, you know, you strengthen the plant, you make it resistant to the depredations of disease by strengthening it, by giving it that which fortifies the whole body of the plant.
   If you understand the apparent negativity as a defense, then you don’t have to attack it yourself. That includes in your relationship to yourself. Attack is not healing. Sometimes removal is healing, but not attack.
    Please go on.

   Jeanie: Somewhere in there, Micciah, you already answered this question, but I’m going to ask it again, anyway. My question’s about resistance. What is the purpose of resistance other than to push against something, to grow?

   Micciah: You mean psychological resistance.

   Jeanie: Uh huh. Psychological resistance.

   Micciah: A resistance to something may come from a number of sources. It is possible to resist something, to resist a notion about yourself, because it is too terrifying to entertain that possibility as the truth. When there has been massive abuse of a child, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, then there may be a resistance to looking at the material, to acknowledging the horror. That is self-protective. And again as the individual gains strength and is nourished and grows, there is greater resiliency and the resistance starts to fall away. And then the material that is very potent, it is necessary to recall that material. That starts to come up, because — with the exception of the most violent memories which sometimes do need to stay buried permanently — the self needs to know itself, and what its incarnation has been. So that is a resistance of fear.
   Sometimes there is a resistance, not so much out of fear, but because the wily aspect of the self is having fun with a pattern that really is not conducive to growth on the part of the mature self, and that wily part doesn’t want to give up the fun unless it is offered a very good substitute (laughter). So, then you have to find a way to give the self something else that is pleasurable and fun. You neglect fun. In your great cultural pursuit of FUN, you don’t really give yourself play. So if there is a pattern that is not supporting greater growth, but there are aspects of it that are fun, if you don’t find another way for that pleasure to come through, it’s “no go” on changing it.
   There is still another kind of resistance that comes not from a present lifetime but from not willing, or being willing, or wishing to see something from a past existence that is deemed by the conscious self to be overwhelming. That is still another kind. So, you have to know which, what is the exact nature of the resistance before you proceed. And to assume in a psychological sense that all resistance is the same thing, the same dynamic, is a misinterpretation from this point of view. At any rate, sometimes, as you say, resistance is to build up strength. You press me, and I resist. Oh, and there is resistance to being wrong, let us not forget that. Yes. To acknowledge that a pattern or a belief is outworn, is no longer useful, is to say, at one level, “Oh, that was not correct. That was a projection that was a fantasy.” There is a part of the self that would rather cut off its toes than admit to being wrong. In the greater sense, everything is used and nothing is wrong. All experience.
   Please, go on.

   Susan: Micciah, I don’t believe God is an impersonal force. If this is true, how does spirit exist in this emotional and conscious state, and how does this translate into form?

   Micciah: No, spirit is not an impersonal force. And it isn’t a person either. All That Is — how can we answer this? — the best we are going to be able to do is to brush against a tiny portion of an unimaginably vast question. Spirit is a love that is so enormous, constantly changing and ever the same, loving in the sense of watching over everything, meaning being everywhere, vast and compassionately loving, so enormous... Words are falling apart quickly. “This one” is just being drawn up through the top of her head. We will try to stay here.
   It is like all time, all love, all compassion folded in on itself, immeasurably vast, unimaginably minute. Vast and holding everything, all the horror, all the suffering in such a way that the dance of experience is left and the poison is withdrawn from it. Spirit is not one thing either. It is first of all not a thing. It is isness, all emptiness, all fullness, it is the eye at the center of every paradox you will ever encounter. And there are realms and realms of spirit.
   It is not correct to speak of spirit as if it were a thing. Words of this kind simply hint. Your experiences of spirit — when you fill with compassion, when you fall into an ecstasy of trust or of expansion or of perfect darkness, when you are filled with compassion, when you are filled with creativity, when you allow yourself to be spontaneous, to embrace someone, when you smile, you know spirit. And all the realms of spirit are affected by you. You think you are affected by it. We will just give up and use the language that is available. You are not just affected by it. All of spirit rejoices with your growing compassion but also with your struggles, your willingness to be in life. It is not at all a question of pleasing spirit in the sense that you would try to please a parent. The ecstasy of All-That-Is is already there. What you must realize is the pulsing back and forth between you. You think you are insignificant, but literally every cell in your body is a full and complete representation of the vastness of spirit. That vastness unimaginable and equal tininess resides in every molecule and atom in this plane and in all the realms. And your feelings, your tenderness, your struggling, in the deeper sense even your wars, the things which we would encourage you to forsake, reside peacefully in spirit.
   That will have to do for the moment, Susan.

   Pamela: Micciah, what is the significance of August 16th and 17th in terms of the end of civilization and perhaps the seeds of the planting of the Aquarian Age?

   Micciah: “The end of civilization.”

   Pamela: As we know it.

   Micciah: You should only be so lucky! [laughter] That is a seed time. The 16th and 17th of August, as you mark it on your calendar, is a time when a seed, the seed of what is sometimes called the fifth world can be, will be, fertilized. And the planet and all the beings on it have incarnations. The planet does, just as you do. And they are all simultaneous, of course, just to annoy you further. But to the face of the personality it looks as if one thing is happening and then another. You are in the challenge and the illusion, the blessing and the demon of time. So in August, it is a point of fertilization, like the fertilization before a birth takes place, and it is important for as many of you as possible to join in wherever you are, to fertilize the seed that will be born as the Fifth World. And to do it with love, and celebration and the possibility of peace, healing, alignment with the One. It is a moment that is like a breath, holding the breath, breathlessness, when you are most prone in the weaving of this realm to dissolution, into transparency. A release of attachments, that time, that is a seed time. So, gather as many people as you can, and fertilize that time. Celebrate in those moments of breathlessness and of potent transparency and great change will come.

   Pamela: Can you give us perhaps a meditation that we can do?

   Micciah: Not so much one thing, but whatever gives you joy. Dancing, singing, touching people, celebrating, meditating on heaven and earth. It is union time! You see, you live in the splitting mind, and you behave very often as if the splitting mind were the truth. But it is only mechanics. This is a fertilization point for a release into the larger portion of the brain and the living experience that goes beyond the mechanical aspect of life. So, whatever gives you pleasure. Whatever represents oneness to you. So. We will leave you with that.
   We thank you very much for your attention, and we bid you a most joyful evening.


Julie: I want to remind you that the channeling that I do with Micciah is really an ongoing exploration; in watching and listening, you’re part of the exploration. So the work is here and it is our intention to share it with those of you who watch. You need to evaluate it for yourselves, to go over the information, to assess what feels right to you, use what feels right and let the rest go.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”