Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 100, 1988

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1988 where Micciah discusses:
Fertility; conception; socioeconomic inequities into which children are born: a soul may incarnate into apparently difficult circumstances for the challenge or drama of it. Conception is affected by many factors: core beliefs of the couple, solar-lunar relationship to biological cycle, strong invocation of Spirit, etc. View Section
Choice and the soul’s purpose: (pt. 1) interplay among agreements made before incarnation and choices made by personality self. Play with the dynamics of choosing. Personality prefers comfort, which may be stultifying. Only real purpose is “to unite with the Source.” View Section

[The original videotape is damaged but still viewable despite obvious stretching. Or just listen.]

   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie:  We do greet you, indeed.  This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter.  Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance, and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm.  This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes.  We want to expand our circle, and include your energy and interest in our work.

   What you are going to see is me, with my personality and intelligence, awareness, go into an altered state.  While I’m in that altered state, I join with other energies, or another energy, and produce the personality of Micciah.  And I have, in that state, an awareness that I don’t ordinarily have.  And I’m going to respond to questions that my classes have asked me.


   Micciah:  We greet you all, dear friends.

   Mary Anne: I’d like to ask a question about fertility.
In the world today there seem to be a lot of people that want very much to have children, and have difficulty conceiving children — a lot of people that would make very good parents, in terms of economics and enlightenment, things like that.
   There also seem to be a lot of people who don’t have any problem having children that may not want them, or be socioeconomically not in a position to necessarily be able to support all those children; and I was just curious... Why is that? What is the —

   Micciah: Well —

   Mary Anne: — situation with that?

   Micciah: — we will refer to somewhat the same concept. From (you are all consumer shoppers!) your point of view, it would seem like a better choice for a soul to come into a most loving, embracing family. But — just in the same way that great drama, great plays, have been written about the struggles of life — from the point of view of the soul, it will incarnate deliberately into a situation of difficulty which, once you drop into the personality, seems insane.
   Now there is a catch here, because it is not all right to observe the difficulty and the suffering of your sister beings, and fellow beings, and say, “Oh — not my problem. They must have chosen it karmically.”
   Sometimes… an entity will incarnate in difficult circumstances just the way an entity will choose to climb a frigidly cold, brutally windy mountain in the physical world.
   And yet, as a planetary family, you are working toward a time when many, many, many souls can be received with joy.
   We cannot generalize about the difficulties of conception, because those are particular to a particular person. Sometimes there has been a very strong choice — an inner choice — on the part of a couple to work for worldly success. Because you are so entranced by worldly success, you are so enamored of it as being important, that a couple (it’s not just the woman; it’s both people) has focused so powerfully in their core beliefs — their wishes, their needs, their drives — that those beliefs must melt (assuming that the physiology of both people will support a child’s coming through). Those beliefs are so resonant, and so strong, that it is hard to dismantle them.
   So if you wish to look at it socioeconomically (even though it’s somewhat misleading to do it), often people who have been successful and wish to continue to be successful are operating with core beliefs that have not shifted to enable them to conceive a child.
   We would also like to say that the physiological conception of a child is more complex than it is believed to be, and can happen in different ways than the medical profession describes — that is, precisely at the moment of ovulation, etc., etc.
   Mmm… [very faint whisper] just a moment.
   And sometimes… [very softly] mmm; how to explain this — [louder] There are many, many souls who want to come into the earth plane. It is a great privilege. It is not a nasty school where you are all sent when you can’t do any better.
   From our point of view, we don’t agree with that theory. It is a great privilege to enter the earth and to struggle with duality, and to be involved in tracking the mystery of Spirit through the world of form.
   [Long pause]
   Sometimes a soul wishes to enter and leave quite quickly, and then may be born into a country where there is strife and warfare and famine. The personality self observes such a situation and says, “No — no one would wish to be born that way!" But because you are protected by your Great Self, [loudly] and the wisdom and the love of the Great Self surround you no matter what, you are safe — even in those incarnations that appear to the personality self to be… totally unsafe.
   And, in a larger sense, it is the work of everyone on the planet to make it an overtly loving place to be.
   [Pause] Hm… you are heading toward a time of great change. You are in a time of great change; of turmoil, of healing, of revelation, of wholeness, through difficulty in circumstances. [Pause] And through the intensity of this time, you will create… knowledge of the divine in this realm as it has not been for thousands of years.
   Do you wish to ask further, Mary Anne?

   Mary Anne: You mentioned that conception happens in ways that the medical establishment doesn’t normally conceive of it. Um — is it something to do with Spirit intervening in the situation at a certain time —

   Micciah: it can be —

   Mary Anne: — to enable, literally, a miracle to happen, or whatever?

   Micciah: Yes. It… just as we said: in a physical healing, whether you set the bone — which is what the medical profession would do, and is most appropriate — whether you set the bone and it heals that way, or you lay on hands, the healing comes through the miraculous nature of life itself.
   So Spirit may be conceived of so strongly that the physiological obstacles, or apparent physiological obstacles, are overridden. There are many, many cases of women who have been told they cannot become pregnant — who then do.
   Sometimes, it is the biological process itself. There is a correlation between the relationship of sun and the moon to each other and to the person in terms of the person’s astrological chart. Some research was done on this a while ago. There is an interior lunar rhythm that has an impact on fertility even though it is separate from the time of ovulation, and it is a time when ovulation can occur spontaneously, out of cycle, through the particular hormonal qualities evoked in that solar-lunar relationship.
   So there is an obvious physical cycle, and there is a less obvious cycle that engages with the physical but has to do with the sun and the moon. Very briefly, it — there is a time in every lunar cycle that matches the relationship of the sun and moon and their positions at your physical birth, and you this one can explain it to you.
   There are also times — what is a sun spot, a sun flare? — when the fertility of everyone on the planet is affected, animals also. You are related to the biosphere; you are not just a little solid, discrete entity! There are, ah — herbal mixtures that can affect the regular cycle of fertility, and enhance its resonance. Oh — there is a lot of material about this.
   There are also cycles when a man is more fertile — cycles in his body that respond to the moon and also to the planet Mars. And, if you wish, we will talk about this further at another time.
   That is why people become pregnant when they can’t become pregnant, or when they are not ovulating, or any of those things. And the more women write about their own experiences, the more they don’t match the medical models. Yet it is also true that medicine can assist in creating pregnancies, through artificial insemination and so forth; and it is true that your bodies have been affected by the chemicals in your food and, ah — in the water and in the air and by radiation.

   Donna: We have free will and choice in this realm, and, I assume, others as well. How does choice manifest with regard to the soul’s purpose?

   Micciah: How does choice — manifest with regard to the soul’s purpose?
   When you enter this world — when you come into each incarnation — you have certain sets of agreements.
   They are YOUR agreements. You made them in the context of your greater self, and you will carry them in this body. They are flexible, to a point.
   Some of these agreements are… a covenant; and the way you go about fulfilling the promise is flexible. So: you have agreed that you will get to point B in a particular life, that you will have a life during which you will be a creative artist. That’s your plan. Now — you can get to it through hundreds and hundreds of pathways; but you have agreed that you are going to do that, because that is within the purpose of the soul, and it is the desire of the guiding entity in that incarnation.
   There are other qualities, other things, that you are choosing as you go along. it could be one of a number of things.
   When you say free will, you bring up the question of fate. What we say to you is that your choices — some of them — precede your physical incarnation. So they may appear fated; that is, no matter what you do in this body, this time, it keeps moving you in a particular direction, and that looks like fate. It is still your choice; but it is not the choice of the distinctive — um — the discrete personality self alone, or the aspects of self once incarnate. It is the choice you made earlier, before you entered your body.
   And there are some of those. In fact, one of the most difficult choices of all… is the choice to have no choice [with a laugh]. There are lifetimes when an entity wishes to grapple extensively with the power of choosing and the dynamics of choosing, and does not; and then that’s the choice prior to the incarnation. And these often appear as people who… are not drawn to a particular life path, who cannot find their way, because they have not set up distinct — um — elements that they will pursue.
   Now, these people are looked upon, culturally, as having great difficulty. Problem making up their mind. A wasted life. But it is not wasted. They are dancing with the power of how to make a choice, since they are not strongly pulled by the agreements they have already made. Do you understand?
   So fate, and destiny — what appear as those things that are irrevocable and will happen no matter what — are organized out of prior agreements. And again: some of them do not fit your pictures about a sensible arrangement.
   [Loudly] It is very often true that in making what you think are such sensible arrangements you shut down your life force; you refuse to be spontaneous. [Headlong] You can ask all the time to have Spirit — your own Spirit; Spirited-nesss — be in your breath and in your belly and in your hands and in the way you walk upon the earth and in the way you cook your food; you can ask all the time — don’t wait one minute longer! And much of it will not look very sensible. it may mean you have to change your plans.
   Most of the plans you make, you make through the incarnate self and the personality self. And the personality self, unfortunately, is the weakest element. [Emphatically] The more you encourage your deep spontaneity, and your trust of the elemental forces flowing through you, the more fully you are alive.
   The point is not to create a nice, comfortable life — although we are not particularly against comfort per se. The personality self, if given the chance — if given the chance — will go for comfort; but we say to you: aliveness wins over comfort any day.
   The personality self will keep going for comfort even when it is surrounded. [Shouting] Lush and plush! As much comfort as could be wished for! Still, in its ingenuity and wiliness, it will think up yet another gadget to reduce effort and increase comfort.
   A toenail buffer! An electrical toenail buffer!
   A popcorn maker!
   It will keep going down the same path forever, unless you — the greater you; larger you — takes the reins out of its hands — lovingly! — says, “Let’s — let’s talk about this. What do you think an electric toenail buffer —” [Laughter] “— is going to contribute to your deep sense of well-being?”
   So — many of the choices that you make that are constraining and life-denying come… not as the soul’s purpose, but as a choice of the personality self.
   And yet, in another way, the life you create is perfect.
   Conception occurs outside the body first and inside the body second. Everything occurs first in Spirit, and then in the physical world.
   And sometimes conception is triggered by an entity wishing to come through and that entity will organize the physical circumstances, in somewhat the same way that it is the baby that triggers its birth, not the mother.
   So, we thank you very much for your time, for inviting us to be here… and we bid you a very good  morning.


   Julie: Channeling is a little like that. That’s the end for now. What we do in class at the end of a session is go over the information, talk about it, evaluate it, find out what works for us individually and what doesn’t, and we invite you to do the same. We’re going to have an address where you can write if you’d like information about workshops or classes, or if you would like a transcript of what just transpired.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”