Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 112, 1989


Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1989 where Micciah discusses:
The illusion of “separateness and enmity” that is native to physical existence.  Christ’s crucifixion: proof that Spirit cannot die; yet it has come primarily to represent (as a death in agony for our sins) “the pain of consciousness when it is blocked from its… sense of connection with everything.”
Consoling the bereaved:  “For comfort to be genuine,” it must care for the “biological suffering,” the “elemental howl.”  To speak of the soul in afterlife, or of the multiplicity of consciousness, only helps if the grieving person’s belief system is receptive.

   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie: We do greet you, indeed. This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter. Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance, and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm. This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes. We want to expand our circle and include your energy and interest in our work.
   I want to thank all of you who have been watching and who have written to me. And what you are going to see is me, with my personality and intelligence, awareness, go into an altered state. And while I’m in that altered state, I join with other energies, or another energy, and produce the personality of Micciah. I have, in that state, an awareness that I don’t ordinarily have. And I’m going to respond to questions that my classes have asked me.


   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.
   Now: we would like to begin by speaking of the interrelationship of all elements of consciousness.
   You are living, both microcosmically and macrocosmically, in a web of infinity, in the presence of all time, and in relationship to everything.
   The appearance of consciousness in relatively concrete form, plus the way in which your attention is focused through the agreements of this culture, gives a heightened awareness of separateness: of divisions, boundaries — the notion that there is not only “Another,” but that the “Other” might very well be dangerous.
   We are not criticizing the sense of separateness. It is a chunk of awareness that is being explored to its outer perimeter. As we have said before, you have gone about as far into separateness as you can go without destroying yourselves — and, in fact, you have gone even further than that, because you have passed the edge of the envelope, and destructive (negatively destructive) patterns have emerged out of a consciousness of separateness and enmity.
   This reflects itself in many ways and at many levels. It reflects itself in some of the teachings of Western medicine, wherein the body is not only seen as individual units (so one doctor is for your kidneys, and one doctor is for your lungs, and one doctor is for your heart, etc.), but the organism, the egg of consciousness, is not seen as related to the environment, to the light and the dark. Not only in an ecological sense; of, ah — well, if you poison water then you will have poisoned water to drink: that is beginning to emerge in consciousness. We hope that it moves faster, this awareness. But, ah — the great ecosystem of consciousness is not here to serve you. You do not have dominion over it. You’re not cleaning up the planet only for you. All of creaturehood is quite as magnificent as you are.
   Now: why are we saying this?
   When you have a belief held in a religious frame that a figure — in this case, Christ — died for YOUR sins, it is a way of saying that the separation from Spirit, from the Godhead (which is all sin is, it is not — we don’t believe there is a sin — there is any other sin), the separation away from wholeness, the tearing of consciousness away from what it knows about itself, was represented by another individual; a focal point… a godhead. And the death, which you conceived of as a death of torture and mutilation (and perhaps it happened and perhaps it didn’t, and we will hold that as a separate issue) — your conception of that death as bloody and tormented represents not only physical torment but the pain of consciousness when it is blocked from its own unity and sense of connection with everything.
   That is to say: when you realize, as a planetary conscious- ness, that you are ALL deadened and tormented by your false sense of separateness (not in the necessary psychological sense, and that is a whole other complicated diversion) — your sense of separateness, your living sense of being separated from life in a sacred mode — then that position is held by a martyr,
   Do you understand this?
   Yes? No?

   Students: Yes.

   Micciah: Yes. So: in the movement of group mind in the… mmm… [searches for words] contours of its apparent present phase, you are struggling to dislocate that image, and to bring into the self the dilemma and the celebration of union: to live life itself as a devotion and a prayer. We know you don’t necessarily like that word, but it has particular impact — a celebration. When that is brought into the self, then you have no further need of martyrs.
   Hmm… hmm… hmm… this is a small piece of an enormous issue. We will just stop here for the moment, and you can ask again.
   And in the rest of this mythology, this enactment, Christ says he did not die. He demonstrates that he did not die. This means that Spirit is NEVER… [searches for words] sheared away from itself: it cannot be. He who was representative of God, of unity, did not die. The death was apparent.
   It is interesting that in all of the churches that evolved out of that teaching it is not the risen figure, the intact figure, as much as it is — at least in Catholicism; not in the Protestant, so much — but the crucified figure that is so… hmm. We were going to say “riveting.” Proving that channeling is not immune to the play of the unconscious.
   [Exhales sharply] And we bring this up at this time because you are, as a planet, potentially enacting the crucifixion of your planet — of all the living fiber, the threads of silk, the rocks and the water and the animals — unless you draw back into yourself and establish your living experience of union.
   Many Native Americans did — and DO. Some did not. You can observe that, in a world of effects, those who, ah — believed in separateness conquered those who did not; but the conquering has carried you to the very edge of what is possible in the dream of this dimension without, ah — losing your foothold as a dimension. So it was not a very good victory.
   We have one other thing to say on this subject: that you have asked before about miraculous healing, and although we have said that all healing is miraculous, the — emotional and physical healings that emerge out of this experience of unity are those that you often refer to… as miraculous.
   So: please — what are your questions?

   Mary Lou: Micciah — ah — I wanted to have you describe (if there is a way to describe) a concrete, down-to-earth way to describe death, so that people who are left behind are comforted by it — feel the connection rather than the separation.

   Micciah: Yes… this has been attempted in many different ways. In the Christian mode, one says that that entity is in heaven — yes? — and therefore at peace with Spirit; or perhaps not, depending on your belief.
   The response to this question cannot be global, because what you say to someone, if it is going to be effective as a communication, must bear in mind and in heart who that person is, what their context is for receiving information. But we will talk a bit.
   First of all: to neglect the biological suffering, the sense of the loss of one who is beloved; to attempt to skip over that, in the desire to affirm their union with Spirit or their new work in the next realm or whatever, is not effective, There is, ah — usually, usually — a creature loss, that is represented in many cultures by sobbing, or wailing. It is an elemental howwl… aaat… the evidence of separateness [of] which we were speaking earlier. And although that is ultimately an illusion, it is not an illusion at the elemental level and cannot be treated as such.
   So: for a process of healing in this area to occur, for comfort to be genuine, there needs to be genuine recognition of that — howwl, that pain, if it is present.
   NOW:[Pause — sharp exhalation]
   The next part depends very much on the set of beliefs of the individual and that individuals culture…. [Pause] All right — we are going to try it for this culture. Otherwise it is too complex.
   You do believe, as a group, ah — in heaven or hell (if that is your belief); or in the scientific belief, so-called, that there is no afterlife — that you are born, and you live, and when you die [smacks hands together] that is the end of consciousness; or, ah — that, ah — some people in this cul-, in your culture, now believe that there is a wheel of incarnation, that one attempts to get off the wheel…. [Pause]
   But the movement out of the physical body and into other realms is really not the same for all people. It is generally the same, in the sense that physical birth is physical birth into this dimension. However, if you think of all the many kinds of experiences you can have once you emerge from your mother and enter this world, you know that leaving the physical dimension — [for] a personal self, a local body leaving — there are as many possibilities — more! — than there are coming into the physical world.
   There is growth and development and teaching. There is no experience of physical time. But, you see, to tell someone this if it is not relevant to them won’t really help.
   So we don’t know how to answer your question. You can comfort their creature distress, and if they are available for it you can describe the multiplicity of consciousness. Just as there is no real separation on this plane but there is really the illusion of it, there is no separation… you are connected to the other realms and they are present in your dream world; and you can see into the realm (so-called after-death realm) with your spiritual eyes; and you can hear…. Sometimes, when you are in fantasy or your attention is focused away from the physical world, you get… [searches for words] you will hear [laughs] what is happening in other realms. You know a great deal about it already, if you pay attention. Mostly you shut that awareness out, and you see only what is observable in the most concrete way. You can see energy forms that are not of this realm.
   Does that answer your question, or respond to it? Do you wish to ask further?

   Mary Lou: it responds to it, yes. [inaudible] it responds, and everything you were saying prior, also, is a part of it.

   Micciah: It is very much — what will comfort someone is very much connected with who that person is; it’s not so much connected with what YOU BELIEVE and what you want them to know as it is with… their — their OWN organization of beliefs.


   Julie: That’s the end of this particular segment... of this particular adventure. And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
   Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it. So long.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”