Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 113, 1989


Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1989 where Micciah discusses:
Mass deaths:When many thousands die at once, in fear, and “pour into another dimension,” a “great marshaling of forces” takes place to help them “across the river.” Entities from many realms, including this one, are “enlisted” to assist with the mass transition — as Julie Winter was, in dreams, before the earthquake in Armenia.
Handling personality-generated, life-denying thought patterns:These represent “a movement away from union with Spirit.” Working with them helps to solve the sense of separation and to develop “qualities that can only be developed in this realm,” such as patience and compassion. To “burnish” one’s soul in this way helps to promote the healing and union of everything.

   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie:  We do greet you, indeed.  This is Micciah Channel, and I’m Julie Winter.  Micciah is an energy entity who works with me while I’m in trance, and while I’m in the trance state I have access to a point of view that seems to come from a non-physical realm.  This series of programs is drawn primarily from videotapes taken during my regular classes.  We want to expand our circle, and include your energy and interest in our work.

   What you are going to see is me, with my personality and intelligence, awareness, go into an altered state.  While I’m in that altered state, I join with other energies, or another energy, and produce the personality of Micciah.  And I have, in that state, an awareness that I don’t ordinarily have.  And I’m going to respond to questions that my classes have asked me.


   Micciah: So…

   Sue: Is the experience of death of a singular person different than the death experience when people die en masse, like with an earthquake or a plane crash?

   Micciah: Yes. There are those entities in the nonphysical realms whose work it is to help people across the river…. Hohh! [sigh]… And there are a number of you who have done this yourselves, both through priestly training in the physical world (that is, being able to bridge the gap, go across the river). There are a number of you who do this from time to time in your dreams.
   So, this job, if you would like to call it that, of helping those who are leaving the physical world and entering a non-dense dimension — those come from this realm as well as that one (as well as other ones); and when many, many thousands of people pour into another dimension, many must be there. Many are enlisted, enrolled, to orient them, so that they are not caught in the sticky places of their own earthly consciousness.
   Now: what do we mean by this mysterious phrase? If you are taught that this life and the other lives are transitions of consciousness weaving its way, snaking its way into various dimensions, then you are prepared. It is possible to be with people, physical people, who sit with you, who chant you into the next dimension — and you will go right on hearing them and being aware as you cross over, as well as being met by those who are already out of their bodies. That is a relatively easy death. Just as there are difficult births into the physical dimension, there are difficult deaths into the next dimension, or the other dimension. (Language here is, ah — not conducive to what we want to express.)
   So: if you have a very strong belief, in your physical life — if you have potent thought-forms related to punishment and to hell, to burning, to inquisition — then it may be when you leave your body, even though there are those there to help you, that the vibrancy of those thought-forms (since thought-forms are quite real) will, ah — catch you; that you will for a while (to frame it in earth-terms) be in a whirlpool of the forms of your own making, the negative (so-called) forms. Then it will be the work of those who are there to greet you to coax you out, to let them become — those forms — become wholly transparent.
   When there are many, many people who die in fear (and all who die suddenly don’t die in fear, but many do), then many must come to bring them out; and those among you (or you watching; you anywhere on the planet) who are skilled in this way may be enlisted in your dreams.
   This one, as she mentioned, had a dream before the earthquake in Armenia. (She really had two dreams, but she consciously remembered only one.) And she saw people — it was a pre-vision, in linear time, of people with their arms upraised, going down in to water and to mud. And she was instructed quite clearly, in the dream, to read the Tibetan Book of the Dead, and to pray for the children. And she did do that.
   So she was enlisted to… take a part, in this dimension, in easing the passageway, the birthing, into the next realm, of the younger ones who died in that earthquake.
   So — yes, the experience is different; it takes a great marshaling of forces on both sides, so to speak.
   Now, there are thousands of people dying all the time. But when thousands and thousands go in one swoop, then, ah — that must be taken care of in a particular way. So the answer is Yes. In one sense, there are thousands of people dying all the time. In another sense, all of these entities went as a group.


   Julie: Okay, stop for a moment and pay attention to what your response is to the information that’s just been channeled. Does it seem to be comfortable, right and appropriate for you? Would you like to think about it further? What does your body feel like right now? What is your breath like right. now? I’d like to remind you that we’ll have an address for you at the end of the program so you can write and just say hello or write for transcripts. And now we’re going to go back and do some more channeling.


   Micciah: Please go on.

   Ken: Yes, Micciah — we have been examining the development of thought patterns that repeat themselves — that do not serve the life force, and lead nowhere; or, at least, back to the old comfortable story that we repeat over and over again.

   Micciah: The theme song.

   Ken: Mmm — [laughs] — the theme song. Can you give some information on how to identify and transform these — ah — attachments, desires, fantasies? And — also, I’m sure that they play a positive role as well. How do we differentiate what is old news and needs to be let go, and what is useful?

   Micciah: [whisper] Yes… [Aloud] we will go back to what we said at the beginning of this session. [Drinks and replaces glass]
   Those patterns that evolve through the focus personality that represent negative separateness, that represent the self in isolation from the self’s own creativity, spontaneity, desire for contact, desire for service, for union; those patterns (this is important!) — those patterns that represent a movement away from union with Spirit, or with the whole, are those that need to be addressed. However, they are not — quote — “bad.” They are designed by you and for you, by your great self, your oversoul, in order to bump up against precisely those issues of separation, fear (which comes from separation), longing… hmm. Just a moment, we are hearing a number of channels at once.
   They are places where you can learn great wisdom… by observing your dilemma with compassion…. Hohh! [vocalized sigh]
   If you have nothing to work — work with, work out — through the illusions of this particular dimension, you wouldn’t be here. So it is a choice that is from Spirit to burnish the soul, let us say. Again we are in trouble with language, and we are also in trouble because we do not want to fall into, ahh — a Pollyanna teaching of “It is all for your own good,” and, ahh — that overly sweet (but not genuinely sweet!) way of observing things. So, here we are.
   You use the aspects of separateness and isolation, which is the root of all fear and all disturbance, to develop some of the qualities that can only be developed in this realm. There we are, we got it! What are those qualities that can only, paradoxically, be developed through the very illusions of this realm?
   One is patience.
   Only when you have dense physical form, only when you are living in the experience of time, can you develop this particular quality of patience.
   Loyalty: where there is no separation — in the realms where there are other things to attend to — there is no question of loyalty. But there is here.
   Devotion. Loyalty and devotion are the same quality.
   Compassion for suffering.
   All of those qualities, burnished through these obstacles — the confrontation with them — are gifts of the Spirit in this realm. And there are many ways of doing it, many levels of doing it, many aspects, facets…. So, those are to be respected — yes?

   Ken: Yes.

   Micciah: Aand aaas you observe yourself caught in a particular dilemma, feeling separate, alone, afraid, isolated, disloyal, greedy — all of those very interesting geographies of consciousness — if you can identify them and ask that question: “How am I caught in separateness in this area of my existence? Where am I trapped, blind, imprisoned by my sense of isolation? Where am I inflicting deadness, where am I crucifying the life force, out of fear?”


   Julie: Okay. Again, I’ve just done a chunk of channeling. Stop for a moment and pay attention to what your internal response is to what you have just seen and heard. What do you feel like with this information? How do you see it? How does the hearing of it strike you personally? Notice your breathing. Notice the way your body feels. Okay. Now we’re going to go back to the rest of the program.


   Micciah: Now; we want to add something to this. Is this clear so far?

   Ken: Yes. Very clear.

   Micciah: when you look out amongst your fellow creatures, you can say well, you are in a very privileged position, in a certain sense, in this aspect of the eternal Now. You cannot say to a child whose belly is swollen and who is starving: “Why don’t you contemplate your aspects of separateness of consciousness? That would really help you a lot.”
   But what would help a lot, since you will all be the starving children and you will all be privileged at some point in the drama of the illusion of time, is to notice that that child is part of YOU: that the crucifixion of life energy, of the life force, on the cross of hunger, in a world that could at this historical point feed everyone — that belongs to you. We are not saying this to induce guilt! But — nor to say: “Well, it is your fault.” But it is an aspect of the totality.
   So you have not only to deal with your own — obstacles, if you will — staging ground, as Helen Palmer calls it, for the next stage of growth. Within that is the greater consciousness.
   Now it is true if every being were to go within to deal with their own personal ways of separating from Spirit, then, ah — perhaps you would not have so many starving children. So we could turn it back to that, and say, as we have said many times: you start with your own consciousness.
   And as we said many, many years ago, in this very room: when you attend to the starving children, who are part of you as a cosmos, you — then you begin to attend to all of the children. And the old people. And the people who are mired in the material realm, seemingly in great luxury, who are in just as much pain although it may not seem so.
   So! What do you do? You observe yourself; you can work with other people, with friends, with teachers, loved ones. Where are the places where you are afraid? And in those places, what is necessary to promote union? Spirit will never desert you.
   Just a moment. we want to see if there’s more on this…. [Pause] Yes; to be aware that the internal voices of hostility and punishment do not contribute to the overall healing, any more than they do when you externalize them. Most of you would not say to another being, “Oh!” — (in seriousness, perhaps in anger) — [with mock fury] “Oh! You are an idiot! I hate the way you do that! You are so stupid! You are so insensitive! You are worth nothing! You are trash!”
   But you are willing to say that to yourselves. We have mentioned this before — that that is a life-destructive voice, and it is the voice of separateness and alienation.
   Now: paradoxically, in order to care for one’s own small cosmos, the cosmos of You, you do need to identify your own true needs — as a creature, as an emotional being, as a thoughtful being, as a creative being — to pay attention. You won’t really be of service to others until you have paid attention to your own… calling, your own need.
   And it is hard to move into unity when you are battering yourself with the hateful voice.
   So, moving toward unity — union — must embrace compassion at every level. And we will stop there.
   We do thank you so much. What you do — your physical class is often attended by many other entities. The teaching and the sharing of knowledge goes all ways — always.
   We bid you a most joyful day.


   Julie: That’s the end of this particular segment... of this particular adventure. And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
   Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it. So long.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”