Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 125, 1989  [CC]

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1989 where Micciah discusses:
The multiple dimensions, or “constellations of probabilities,” that surround every physical situation: how these can intersect with events on the physical plane and create “what you would call a miracle.” View Section
The upheaval in China: it represents not only itself but the desire of the entire planet and its creatures for peace. This desire clashed with the government’s “attunement to fear,” which is still too strong to be overridden. View Section
The difference between surrender into faith, and collapse: although collapse may seem like a relief, it is not “lively,” as surrender to Spirit is, but “defeating.” When you have done all you can (which seem like be very little), surrender is delightful. View Section

   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie: My Name is Julie Winter, and this program is called Micciah Channel.
   And what you are going to see is me, going into an altered state of consciousness, a non ordinary state of awareness. And what I believe happens when I am in that state is that I enter an expanded geography of the self, and that there is an overlap between what I know (my intelligence, my awareness, my experience) and something that is larger than my ordinary awareness. It may indeed be that it is all part of my awareness and that would be fine. What’s produced is a personality that is a product of this overlapping and the personality is called Micciah.
   My voice is going to change and it is my own voice. The variations in speech have to do with my being in an altered state.
   The program is created from my classes. My students bring questions in. We encourage you to ask questions, to ask questions about channeling, about my channeling, whatever. And use your discernment in evaluating the information that comes through.


   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.
   When you observe an outcome, a circumstance, or a situation, in the physical world, we wish you to understand that the situation you observe has multiple dimensions. And you are aware of being aware of one of them — although even in ordinary awareness, if you show five people the same situation and ask them to comment they will describe five somewhat different situations; and if you ask five people from five cultures that are different to observe the same situation and comment, they will describe five QUITE different situations.
   Those who are, ah — deeply aware, or awakened, see the focus situation and are also aware of a constellation of other probabilities surrounding the apparent situation. As you become more alert to these probabilities, you start to see the world in much more fluid terms — so that it isn’t THIS! and THIS! that are happening. Many things are happening, and a great deal of what is happening depends on your awareness — the scope of your awareness, the depth of your awareness — and your focus.
   So — what are your questions? Do you understand this? If it is not clear, ask.

   Students: It’s pretty clear. Yes.

   Micciah: [Whisper] Good. [Aloud] Go on, then.

   Jennifer: Okay, Micciah; what we’d like to know first is: How does the upheaval right now in China have to do with — or, what does the upheaval in China have to do with the changes in the world globally, toward the changes in 2000? It looks like that they’re moving closer to their own expressiveness, but — how does that tie in with what we’ve been trying to deal with, what we’re working toward?

   Micciah: There was a great, ah — fountain, like a sluice opening, and water pouring through ... pouring through ... that brought all of these people together through the yearning of their hearts, supported by many, many thousands and thousands of people and also supported by the guardians of the planet and by creatures ... creatures of the earth of all kinds. You don’t think of the creatures as desiring peace, but they do. So there was, ah — an enormous outpouring of passion that held the peace for many, many days.
   [Louder] And it represents not only itself — that is, China the nation and its own people. It represents the state of the planet, and the ever more fervent ... push, like birth pangs, for peace. It represents the possibility of healing in a peaceful way in the health of the body, such as a relative upsurge of healing possibilities that involve meditation, visualization — peaceful attention to the body, rather than violent attention, in order to accomplish healing. It represents ecology, and the growing notion of peace delivered toward the body of the planet. (You see, we are talking about these floating probabilities: what-is-happening clustered around the focus of a set of circumstances.) It represents a flowing toward peace in a situation totally that is not yet completely prepared to have it.
   This is very important. The situation as a whole, you are — you are, all of you — you are not just you. The situation as a whole still is too strongly, powerfully in the thrall or the trance of fear — fear about its own control and power. Still too strongly in the beat.
   It is like an attuning in consciousness. Your bodies, your brains, your nervous systems, the planet itself — they are all like tuning systems. And there is too strong an attunement, still, to fear — to the fear as a group: in this case the group of the army, of the aggressive army (there is an army that is not participating, or several), pressed by the leaders, who conceive of events as power plays — just events. Not spiritual work, not the unfolding of consciousness out of itself: EVENTS. And POWER. [Claps] Physical world to physical world. And that is still so potent [claps] that it overrode the swells of peace, the fountain.
   However, an interesting situation has developed in that the armies are fighting each other. The armies themselves have not massed together to crush the people, and it is still tentative.
   So, now we come to the next very important point. How do you hold both sorrowing and rage, and still go on with peace? And we will stop and go to your next question. Do you understand so far?

   Jennifer: Um-hmm.

   Micciah: So far, so good.

   Caryl: Micciah, these movements — the Chinese people’s movements — come from love of their country, and yet the government turns violent. Feels it must turn violent. Why is it that love does not work?

   Micciah: Well, that is the next part of the question.
   You are living in a time of chaos. You are living in a time of great sorrow. You are living in a time of great fertility, when the challenge for you who have appeared in this dimension — in this time frame of this dream — the challenge is to stay with the celebration of love. Even as you sorrow and rage, to keep encouraging yourself and everything around you — everything and everyone and everything you touch — to keep encouraging the love, even as you bind the wounds. Even as you hold dying bodies, even as you rock the dying bodies of those who have followed their dream and those who have been afraid and resorted to violence. Can you be a strong enough, a resilient enough vessel, to hold the overwhelming blessings of life and to nurture the seed-bed — the seed-bed — of profound love which will emerge out of this chaos?
   We have said to you over and over again that this is a time of enormous power and of great changes in consciousness. [Deep sigh]
   Please go on; don’t be satisfied with a simple — an answer that feels too simple! Keep asking.

   Caryl: Man is so mean to man!

   Micciah: Cruel!

   Caryl: Yes.

   Micciah: Violent. It is produced out of fear. All of the violence that is done — to the self, to other selves, to the earth, and to creatures — is done from fear. Greed is fear. Cruelty is fear. Control, in the sense of control over things — that kind of crushing control — is fear. The body, the resonating body of fear is very strong right now, very apparent. And to attempt to crush fear with more cruelty simply will compound the difficulties.
   So how can you stay, authentically, with compassion?
   [Pause] Hm! It is a challenge.
   [Sigh] Please go on.

   Joanna: I have a question about faith in life — how to know when you’re acting from faith, when you’re operating on faith; and how to know when you’re perhaps just giving up your responsibility and not working on something in which you need to make a more active effort to bring about an outcome. I guess I’m basically asking about the difference between surrender and collapse.

   Micciah: Good question. And very appropriate in what we are talking about.
   You can surrender into the truth of your feeling — your sorrowing, your anger about so many killed in China, for instance — and that surrendering is healthy if you allow it to move through you so you can come out of it. To be attached to it permanently will not serve you.
   What does it mean to surrender in a situation, as differentiated from simply lying down and waving your legs in the air? How do you judge?
   One of the ways is through being able to be still with yourself. You walk around in a cloud of words — particularly in this culture, in the Western world — “Dahr-r-r-r-r-r-r!” [a guttural trill] — that pushes your inner touching, your inner contact, out — away. So ... the stillness will communicate to you, will signal to you. It is almost, ah — well, it is kinesthetic in a very fine, very ... [searching for word] delicate way. Sometimes not even so delicate. That, ah — the desire to surrender, you can experience [sigh] as an urge ... [whisper] (oh, how to explain it!) ...
   [Aloud] When you allow yourself to be in the involuntary — as you know, to have an orgasm you must allow yourself at some point to enter the involuntary, and that works as an example, a metaphor, for many things. The sense of surrendering is lively. The sense of wishing to surrender, after you practice a bit, is like entering the involuntary. And it has a lively quality of yielding, a pleasurable quality. Even if it is scary, if you are not used to it, to say, “I surrender this to Spirit! I (personality self) have done all I can.”
   And that is another signal. When you have done all you can, when you have done all the preparing of the garden that is your responsibility — nourishing the soil, putting the seeds in, patting the earth down — when you have done what you can do, then there is a sense of delight in surrendering. Whereas collapse is often signaled by exhaustion, despair.
   Now: one can go from despair to surrender. It is possible to enter the door of surrender through despairing moments; yet AT THAT MOMENT of surrender there is always the lightness. At the MOMENT. Even if it is through illness, through suffering, when you are led through the doorway into surrender it is filled with liveliness, lightness.
   When you collapse, it is ... experientially different. It is sometimes associated with blame, at the psychological level. And there is, ah — perhaps relief in it, if it is — oh! it’s complicated. If it is an accustomed psychological position you may feel relieved when you fall into it. “Ah! All right. I don’t have to struggle any more.” But there is not real delight.
   So if you will, practice, yourselves, in areas where you feel you can, with surrendering — knowing that you have done what you can and you are giving it up, turning it over. And what you can do may be very modest, hardly anything at all. The point about the garden doesn’t completely work. It may be that you can make that much of a step, and that is truly what you can do; and you surrender into asking for help to make that much of a step. Still, we feel that the surrender contains liveliness.
   [With a laugh] When you die, when you leave your body — the final physical surrender — it is paradoxically full of life. If you have ever watched the face of a person, they often enter death with peacefulness (if they are not so drugged, if they are not so drugged that it changes the expression) — peacefulness and release and joy.
   [Sigh] Collapse feels sometimes relieving; often it is defeating, and not pleasurable.


   Julie: That’s the end of this particular segment... of this particular adventure. And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
   Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”