Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 153, 1991  [automated CC]

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1990 where Micciah discusses:
There will be more destruction, and it is a time of healing. Outpouring of centuries of toxins. Acts of faith. Conserve water. Create “genuine peace” in relationships and within ourselves. Projected self-hate creates illusion of the Enemy. View Section
Living with “I-don’t-know” and Surrender: Narrower self will kill to defend rightness, dreads being wrong. “I-don’t-know”: a fertile state. Be tender toward the self and harmless to others. Surrender: “a blissful, enlivening release” into the divine. View Section

   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie: My Name is Julie Winter, and this program is called Micciah Channel.
   And what you are going to see is me, going into an altered state of consciousness, a non-ordinary state of awareness. And what I believe happens when I am in that state is that I enter an expanded geography of the self, and that there is an overlap between what I know (my intelligence, my awareness, my experience) and something that is larger than my ordinary awareness. It may indeed be that it is all part of my awareness and that would be fine. What’s produced is a personality that is a product of this overlapping, and the personality is called Micciah.
   My voice is going to change and it is my own voice. The variations in speech have to do with my being in an altered state.
   The program is created from my classes. My students bring questions in. We encourage you to ask questions, to ask questions about channeling, about my channeling, whatever. And use your discernment in evaluating the information that comes through.


   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends. And we know that the brew ... that the manifestation ... that what you see around you, and feel and hear, and read, and dream, is becoming more and more disturbed.
   [Deep breath.] Let us go to the questions.

   Roseanne: I don’t see us headed toward destruction; and yet if you pick up a newspaper, it — that’s all it says. And if you speak to people they’re all
   in a panic about war. And I see this time as a transitional period. And I think at the end it’s going to be a better world, not a worser one. And I’d like to know what Micciah has to say about that.

   Micciah: Well — there is going to be more destruction. You have to — mm — move your understanding of destruction. There is going to be more destruction and it is a time of healing.
   As we have said before, what is now being overtly played out before your very eyes, in a world where there is instant communication (you know, the human race has never had that before in this way), in a world where there is, ah — so much destruction — it is a vast outpouring of what has piled up, if you will, for centuries. It is like the human body, if you go on a fast of water. You were feeling fairly well when you decided to fast. As the fast progresses and the toxins are released from your body, and mucus runs out of your nose, and your eyes swell and your stomach grumbles and you may get pimples or boils — so, what is happening? What needs to be healed is coming before you, so there can be no question that it needs to be taken care of.
   And it is not only a time of healing, but a time of movement of consciousness, on the part of millions of people, from one frame to a larger frame.
   How do you work ceaselessly to alleviate suffering, and at the same time do so, when you are able, in a consciousness of blessing life itself in all its manifestations?
   Yes — it is a time of healing. And you speed the healing through your believing, and through your acts of faith.
   Faith, like peace, has a very active component. Your acts of faith ... mm — represent your willingness to stand behind your beliefs.
   As we were saying the other night — as we have said before — we will say it once more: The body of this planet and all of your physical bodies depend on water. On a clear supply of water. You can have faith in ecology — that it will catch on, that it is catching on. But your act of faith in the protection of the planet — about the protection of the planet — also includes your literal, concrete acts of conserving water!
   You know — diverting water from one place to another — moving water from the deep aquifers to supply other places, and so forth — are connected with earthquakes and other manifestations on the planet. So — in an ecological sense, your acts of faith are embodied in your consciousness, in the mindfulness with which you treat your everyday environment. And your acts of faith psychologically, in terms of creating peace, have to do with being able to create genuine peace in your relationships (which doesn’t mean that you never fight, at all).
   And your acts of peace within yourself means being willing to learn to soothe yourself and to heal the demons of self-hatred. Because it is those very demons that are projected out into the outer world and cause the appearance of the enemy.
   Who is the enemy?
   And then every once in a while you have an enormous, horrifying figure, like a Hitler, who is not really exactly a human being — it’s like a mass representation of violence and hatred.
   Does this make sense?

   Students: Yes. Yeah — um-hm. Yes.

   Micciah: It’s very hard to describe. It keeps slipping, either into, ah — what seems like denial, or — mm — ah — mm ... or an unrealistic, ah — sort of mannequin way of being; and we don’t mean it that way. This is a very vital ... expression.
   [Sigh.] So how do you keep holding — in your heart, in your belly — “This is a time of healing”? “I am voting for a time of peace.” And your vote counts. You have to keep reminding yourself of it, and have communities of people that remind each other of it.
   Please, continue.

   Laura: My question is how to live with “I don’t know”; and how to surrender.

   Micciah: [Whisper.] Yes. [Aloud.] Well, this ties together many of the other questions.
   The way in which the smaller self (no — that’s not a good way of thinking of it) — the, ah — the self of a more limited existence, a more limited understanding — the way in which that self often identifies its sense of, ah — power is through being right. Through knowing. Whether it is knowing that, ah — the yams of your sister-in-law must not be touched by your cousin, or whether it is knowing that, ah ... you belong to the one true church or the one acceptable race — whatever. The sense of: “I AM! I AM entitled because I AM right. I have been TOLD that I am right by the person in charge of this group. I am right in my national interests; I am RIGHT in my religion.”
   It sounds strange, but the believing of this narrower self in its own rightness — the danger that is experienced in loosening that, in letting it wobble or in being wrong (right and wrong always go together) — the danger is experienced as so intense that you are willing to make war, to kill, to protect the right; to protect, really, the smaller self’s sense of its, ah ... entitlement?
   There comes this enormous attachment, full of bloody roots, to: “I am right; and if I am right and you are different, you are wrong. And you might take something from me. We cannot agree — we cannot encompass each other! You are one way, I am another ... [smacks hands together] so, we must fight — to the death.”
   Living with “I don’t know” as a fertile state of being — not [with a laugh] — not living with it in a sense of: “I am so ashamed I don’t know!” Going back to what we said earlier: one of the ways in which you limit your creativity so severely is your terror around being foolish, around not knowing. You begin to learn something new, you want to be experts! — you don’t like people who are not up to your level! — you want to know right away, and be sleek and clever in the way you do it — you can’t do it! It literally prevents you from your heritage to vast creative forces. (Your heritage of vast creative forces.)
   So — and there is, culturally, intense shaming around not-knowing. [Furtive whisper:] “I don’t know how to do this!” And the flicker of intuitive knowing that you often have — about your body, for instance; about your health, about what will support your well-being — if it doesn’t get mirrored from an outside source you will ignore the intuitive flashing that comes in your dreams and in your meditations (“Well — I don’t — I’ve never heard of this before; it can’t be right. I don’t know — no, no, I won’t do it.”) — where you are really equipped to take care of yourselves so wonderfully!
   So, how to live with “I don’t know ... and then I do know this little piece; and then I don’t know ... and then I know something, and then I don’t know —” has to do with cultivating, loving the self, and knowing that the self is full of Spirit, of wisdom. If there is love for the self — appreciation, tenderness — then you can be not so attached to knowing. It is the irony of ironies that so much of this has played out in the knowing under the banner of Spirit — yes? Wars of one religion against another. But how can you know — know God, and wish to kill someone, who is knowing it in some different way?
   When you say, ah — “I know that that is a bad person, whether it’s because you don’t agree with my religion, or because you are giving guns to —” (It is all right to give guns to soldiers, culturally. Giving guns — giving guns away). What do you know? You know that something destructive is enacting itself.
   [Deep sigh.] How to live with ... “Don’t-Know” mind. Through tenderness toward yourself; and, ah — an affirmation of yourself as the vessel of Spirit. And it is then — that you become harm-less. To do no harm. Not to harm nature, not to harm your body, not to harm another person ... to be harmless.
   So a key to tolerating “I don’t know” is [sigh] in the kindness you show toward yourself. The healing of shame.
   When we speak of surrender, we mean to go beyond what is apparent, to go beyond the apparent given in the world; to give yourself over ... to the notion, to the heartful experience of the vast compassion of the Source that holds you. Surrender, like faith, has a very lively aspect. And there’s an association of surrender with — [quickly, voice deadened] surrender.
   And also with shame. “Hanh-hah-hah!” [Derisive chant.] “In this war you surrendered — we won! Hanh-hah-hah! You wimped out.” It doesn’t have a very good name. Or it is associated in some religions with a sort of loss of personality and vitality. We mean it as a very vital, ah ... [laughs] blissful, enlivening release! So you can move out of the confines of what is obviously given — [deep breath] — like taking off a tight girdle — into that which is beloved, that which is compassionate, that which is amazing and creative and divine. HAH — [vocalized gasp]! Relief!
   In very practical terms (since this one has a great love of the practical world), you can practice surrender. It is like learning a new skill. You can practice in areas where you feel fairly safe: “I surrender to my intuition, to the guidance of this dream, which tells me to make a certain phone call.” All right? Limited risk! If you push yourself too far, too fast — mm — it is a sort of self-sabotage. So — like the child surrendering to learning to walk, to the impulse to learn to walk, even though she or he flops down — you surrender bit by bit, starting in areas where you already have the sense of being fairly safe.
   [Whisper.] Just a moment. [Aloud.] There is also a question of surrender in, ah — contemplating your world-view. Well, here is war, cooking in the Middle East, yes? Might it explode? Oh yes. Contemplating it with horror. Because in the physical world it is horrible — it will bring more horror. And experimenting with stepping beyond that — [unvoiced] whoooh! — right off the edge of the world, into — “How do I contemplate all of this and hold the entire thing with love?” Well — you — you can’t, really. You can invent it.
   “If I were going to invent a way to do this — to think about it, to feel about it — how would I do that?” If you gave that as a question to children, before they got very well cemented into the group believing, they would think of a lot of answers. Grownups would probably take longer. But they would — you would think of it!
   So there is surrender in terms of acts that are prompted by intuition, or by — whatever. There is surrender in your way of holding something, in your way of believing about it, that says, “Well — maybe I’m not right.” And what we’re saying isn’t right either; it’s just something to experiment with. “Maybe I’m not right.” And — you see, then the next step, in terms of habit, is: “Aha — if I’m not right, I’m wrong.” Or, “I’m just stupid and I don’t know.” But the pleasure of “I don’t know” — that means there could be wonderful things I haven’t yet discovered!
   All the ingenuity it took to launch this garbage into space — mm — used toward caring for your resources on the planet that you do have, would go a long way. You have so much creativity — so much! — that you don’t dare to use.
   That is another kind of surrender: “Well — I surrender into dressing myself very creatively for just one day.” It sounds foolish, but — [sigh] it really is how you start to practice. If I’ve always wanted to paint, I surrender into trying it. I get out of the confines of my earlier believing.
   [Whisper.] So — [Aloud.] We will surrender to time. How are you for time, Jon?

   Jon: Ah — we’d better surrender completely.


   Micciah: [Loudly.] We share with you a very good evening! [[Quieter.] We thank you, and we bid you ...

   Students: Thank you, Micciah.

   Micciah: [Whisper.] — a good day.


   Julie: That’s the end of this particular segment... of this particular adventure. And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
   Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.

   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”