MICCIAH CHANNEL: JULIE WINTER
Produced by Jon Child
Transcript of Program 163, 1991 [automated CC]
Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1991 where Micciah discusses:
• Coping with the fearful world situation: Community nurtures our connection to Spirit. Be “saturated by the sustenance of the vast available love.” This moves us to effective action; seed-forms in consciousness begin to change. Shape-shifting: in groups, we can travel in the luminous world to ease pain in the Middle East, clean the air and water, patch the ozone layer. View Section
• Finding peace within ourselves: In meditations, in creativity. “Feed yourself consciously” on the connection with Spirit. “Bless what you touch.” View Section
• Accuracy of information: “The trance of naming” creates seed-forms of belief. To see a disease as a circumstance particular to an individual would loosen the hold of naming: ask, “What is the nature of the situation?” rather than “Is it X?” View Section
[The tape had deteriorated and has a 14 second dropout toward the end, but is still quite watchable. It is published for reference.]
Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.
Julie: My Name is Julie Winter, and this program is called Micciah Channel.
And what you are going to see is me, going into an altered state of consciousness, a non-ordinary state of awareness. And what I believe happens when I am in that state is that I enter an expanded geography of the self, and that there is an overlap between what I know (my intelligence, my awareness, my experience) and something that is larger than my ordinary awareness. It may indeed be that it is all part of my awareness and that would be fine. What’s produced is a personality that is a product of this overlapping, and the personality is called Micciah.
My voice is going to change and it is my own voice. The variations in speech have to do with my being in an altered state.
The program is created from my classes. My students bring questions in. We encourage you to ask questions, to ask questions about channeling, about my channeling, whatever. And use your discernment in evaluating the information that comes through.
Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends. And we are most pleased to be with you this evening.
So please; let us have the questions.
Hana: Well, this class has been very nourishing for me, and I think for all of us. But when we contemplate what is going on around us —
Micciah: [Sigh; whisper.] Ohh – yes –
Hana: — I often feel a great deal of fear.
Hana: And I find it sometimes difficult to cope with.
Micciah: Yes —
Hana: When I do my meditations and I do my creative activities, this is all very reassuring, and it feels very positive.
Hana: But when I contemplate the refugees in Iraq, and the outrageous things that are going on in the Middle East —
Micciah: Yes —
Hana: — or — ah, you know, the things that are happening to our planet; you know, the extinction of species, and the ozone depletion, and this hot weather — it’s very difficult to feel at peace with oneself.
Hana: And so I would like Micciah to comment on some of the things that are happening here, which — I understand that we’re undergoing a process of cleansing, and many bad things are happening —
Hana: — and must happen. But sometimes it’s very difficult to deal with them on a personal level.
Micciah: Yes. It is, ah — most nurturing to be able to bring the personal concerns to a community. No one is expected, or even intended, to have to sustain connection alone.
Even those beings who go off for many, many years, into caves, to meditate, and so forth, start with community and return at some point to community, and are aware in their aloneness that they are supported by a community of spirits.
How is it possible to contemplate the ghastly tortures [deep sigh], and not despair completely? You must immerse yourselves ever more deeply with love; allow yourselves to be saturated by the sustenance of the vast available love. And in so doing, you will be moved to act in the world where you will do the most good. And you will be moved to reach within yourself [deep sigh], and contemplate the plight of the soldier and the victim. Because they suffer equally.
True, one seems to be much more in charge. Someone with a machine gun, a helicopter, shooting at innocent people as they run: it is not difficult to identify the bad guy. But we say to you [deep breath]: the more you allow yourselves to melt, and to be filled up with your sense of Spirit and of love, the more you are able to mirror Spirit — to imagine rocking the whole situation in a cradle of compassion and mercy.
Yes, this is the unfolding of seeds that were planted [deep sigh] ... and it was likely that they would bear this fruit.
The power of love is enormous. It far outweighs the power of ignorance. So when you are responsible for your own consciousnesses; when you meditate, when you pray, in whatever way pleases you; when you sit together; when you work in consciousness in the luminous world, and go into — let us say — the Middle East, and ease the pain — send yourselves there en masse, carrying love, beaming it everywhere; then you have an effect far, far beyond what you imagine. FAR beyond what you as a small identity, as a personality, can have — because you [sigh] expand beyond the confines of the personality and its own work. Personality-self brings you to Wiser-self, to Oversoul. And the power that you generate, that you share, when you align yourselves with this love, is immense. [Sigh.]
And then the shapes in consciousness begin to shift. The seed-forms begin to shift. The seed-forms begin to change — the very ones that created all this misery, the ones that say again and again: “We are the oppressed, you are the oppressor. We will rise up against you and we will vanquish you!” In the relative world, that enactment and reenactment and reenactment: the seed-forms change, so that solutions that have to do with love and transformation appear in the relative world: “Ah! Now! Here is a possibility we have not explored yet! Here is something beyond another war to right the wrongs of the previous war, which attempted to right the wrongs of the war previous to that.”
This takes work — play — on the inner plane. There is the outer world, and the inner world. And what can be created on the inner planes, with your attentiveness and your devotion and your waking yourselves up, and remembering to wake each other up — gently! Things can be accomplished very quickly in the inner world; the seed-forms conceived of and nurtured — fed — with love. Yes, it takes commitment and devotion and consistency [sigh], and the capacity to see beyond the relative.
You can go together in consciousness and clean the water that has been filled with oil, and the air that is full of fumes; you can go up to the ozone layer. You can travel, in your light bodies, and patch it — send love into it. And things will begin to change! Shape-shifting: the ancient shamanic tradition of shape-shifting. (Your group idea of shape-shifting is to go in with 500,000 tanks: “Well — we’ll shift their shapes, all right!” More of the same.)
Do you get where we’re headed — yes? Clear?
Micciah: And of course you can also work in the physical world. [Deep sigh.]
[Softly.] Nourishment. [Pause.] Please go on.
Tom: I guess in a way Micciah answered part of my question, which was how we can contribute to peace; but another part of that question is how we can find that peace ourselves, while the outer world is sending SCUD missiles around.
Micciah: [Whisper.] Yes —
Tom: How do we —
Micciah: And it is not a question of denial, which is really an unpeaceful state. So, some of it is the willingness to — [deep sigh] to mourn, and to be affected, and then move beyond, or move more deeply.
You find your peace in your meditations, in your creativity. Here you are — relatively free. You can use some of your time in consciousness toward prayer, meditation. Offering your help through whatever means is available to you; to contribute money or write letters. And when we say peace, we don’t mean a state of quietude but a state of liveliness and connection with life-energy, a state of creativity.
[Sigh. Whisper.] So ... ohh — just a moment.
[Pause. Aloud.] Feed yourself consciously on a diet of that which keeps you connected with your spiritual center. Pay attention, when you get drawn into, ah — a kind of — hm! — trance of negativity or violence. Enter the Silence; use your dreams, your dreamtime [deep sigh]; celebrate with each other, or question, or cry. Remember to go to the food of the Great One [sigh], and drink it in [sigh]. Make for yourselves a living consciousness of blessing — we have said this again and again, to the point of we hope we are not boring you with it: bless what you touch. So, you are, ah — walking your path and speaking your path, and touching in the name of your path, and dreaming your path: that’s how you make it real!
Now, this one has been concerned about accuracy of information, when you ask about something. What does it mean to be accurate? Some of it has to do with naming! As we have said before, you have another kind of trance with naming. You know in the homeopathic tradition they will not say to you: “Oh, you have — gahoofus. Gahoofus is a very rare and dreaded disease.” Because they know, as soon as your ears hear “gahoofus” —
— you think — “Hhhh!!!” [gasp of horror]. “The dread gahoofus — I will not survive this!” And all of your friends will respond: “Oh, no! So-and-So has gahoofus.”
So, you tap out forms — seed-forms — in the light-world, in the luminous world. And as you keep throwing your belief into them they take on a very lively reality, some of them with — fangs! And as soon as you hear the word, you bang into the reality that you have created, through naming, and through constant association with that — shape, yes? [Sigh.]
So you have a situation called AIDS, or called cancer. Cancer is really — even in your own medical understanding, it is a collection of many, many, many different diseases. Shapes, forms — they all have names.
We will say this at the risk of sounding ridiculous: if you could conceive of dis-ease states as events or circumstances particular to that person, individuated in that person, you could start to loosen the hold that naming has. So sometimes, when you observe through this state, or observe intuitively, you need to ask, “What is the nature of the condition?” rather than, “Is it X?” Yes, some diseases fall into patterns that are predictable (except when they’re not), and they become more predictable because you keep believing that over and over again.
What do they do in the Chinese system, Elaine? How is it called?
Elaine: Well, it’s interesting, because there’s a whole issue of whether you want to give somebody a diagnosis, or you want to reframe it in terms of: “Oh, you’re tight here and if I could free this up then the energy’ll flow again.”
Micciah: Yes; well, we are in favor of that. You — because of your general group system of believing, people don’t feel they have gotten their money’s WORTH! unless you can tell them what they HAVE! To say, “You have a moving circumstance which is the creation of cells which are looking like so, and we want to move the body into alignment where it can rid itself of those cells,” or whatever.
We don’t want to negate the possibility of Western treatment, either, because sometimes it is, if dangerous, very successful. We don’t want to be in opposition. We are trying to describe the process of observing from the intuitive frame.
From our perspective, it is not so much — this or that; it is a circumstance. It is a series of events, coming together to create a physical circumstance; and you then name it.
So, ah — this one is upset. The individual in question will be all right. We have communicated that. She doesn’t have any intention of dying, right at the moment. She is afraid (not surprisingly). But when you observe something intuitively, it would be helpful to open the frame so you are asking about the whole circumstance; then you will get a much clearer idea. But you — this one, in this case — panics, and wants to know: “Is it the name — ’X’ — or NOT?”
In the question of AIDS, for instance: AIDS is a medical diagnosis that simply encompasses two categories, Kaposi’s and pneumocystis. Many people have died who have technically, in medically parlance, ARC: they have never been diagnosed as having true AIDS. Now it also comes to light, which we said many years ago: there are those who have that particular cancer who are not infected with the HIV virus. The HIV virus itself is a number of different viruses, and affects different people differently, and can be a different virus in the same body at different times.
So it makes life very complicated, with naming. We would prefer the Oriental system, the homeopathic system, that observes. We know your Western research is not geared in this way.
Well, that addresses that question. Where are we for time, Jonathan?
Jon: It’s a good time to close.
Micciah: It is a good time to close.
We thank you very much. We are sending you all great love. The room is filled with visitors who don’t take up any space. And we bid you a good evening.
Julie: That’s the end of this particular segment... of this particular adventure. And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.
Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”