MICCIAH CHANNEL: JULIE WINTER
Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 169, 1991  [automated CC]

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1991 where Micciah discusses:
The voice and design of Spirit are present in absolutely everything. “Warrior” in divine teachings: we do battle with fear. Learning to hear the song of Spirit everywhere, we feel compassion toward what we tend to reject. View Section
Childbirth today: Reflects hatred of women and the body. Damaging to the child; conducive to violence, disease, addiction. Circumcision: harms energy body. The natural world being part of Spirit’s song, it’s clear you don’t need to mutilate yourself. View Section


   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie: My Name is Julie Winter, and this program is called Micciah Channel.
   And what you are going to see is me, going into an altered state of consciousness, a non-ordinary state of awareness. And what I believe happens when I am in that state is that I enter an expanded geography of the self, and that there is an overlap between what I know (my intelligence, my awareness, my experience) and something that is larger than my ordinary awareness. It may indeed be that it is all part of my awareness and that would be fine. What’s produced is a personality that is a product of this overlapping, and the personality is called Micciah.
   My voice is going to change and it is my own voice. The variations in speech have to do with my being in an altered state.
   The program is created from my classes. My students bring questions in. We encourage you to ask questions, to ask questions about channeling, about my channeling, whatever. And use your discernment in evaluating the information that comes through.

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   Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends. And we are most pleased to be with you.
   [Slowly, drawn out, with pauses.] We wish to talk about, ah — the voice of Spirit: the essence, the speaking, the singing ... of the actions of Spirit, and the way in which all of life — all circumstances, all bodily events, all conditions of the planet — are in some way speaking as the voice of Spirit.
   First of all, all aspects of the natural world — the earth and all the creatures, everything that grows and has its being — is an embodiment of that voice; is a physical creation into which, through which, the song of Spirit is woven, is ... embedded.
   So — it is possible for you all to be in the conscious awareness that whatever you engage with, whatever you touch, whatever you eat, whatever you make ... is the song of the Divine expressing itself. Once you understand that all existence on this plane of action is relationship, and all relationship is capable of mirroring your relationship with Spirit, with the great One, then you understand that. Then you come into each relationship — everything from the relationship to your own body and its processes to a relationship with the environment; relationships with other people; relationship to, ah — your work — all of it — in the Spirit. You are perceiving and understanding and experiencing the creation of Spirit. In multiple shapes.
   [Deep breath. Pause.] Now — it is easier to contemplate a flower — the lilacs — and say, “Yes, of course. The lilacs are divinity, in their shape and their scent”; but cockroaches? Have you ever been nose to nose with the divinity of a cockroach?
   So at the personality level, you designate: “This is Spirit; this is not.” And it is done differently in different cultures, and differently in the same culture at different times. Think about this — how you are always designating: “This, but not that!”
   Then, how is a war Spirit? Now — [sighs; gags] this one is going to jam — as a mechanism, as a receiver, co-creator — because of her feelings about war. Many spiritual teachings describe divine warriors. The teachings from India are filled with warrior images. [Pause.] It is possible ... [whisper] it is possible [aloud] to know [sigh] that the courage of the warrior (in one way demonstrated in the courage of the mother defending her cub) has a place in the scheme of things. And that in a certain manner, if that is your inclination, you do battle (hopefully, loving and heartful battle) with fears, in order to break through into liberation. If you have ever meditated for very long periods, it is strenuous; and thought-forms come up — and you do, in a sense, do battle with them.
   It is possible to perceive the search for divinity even through destruction and very unconscious fighting — the wars you make on your planet. And you are coming to the end of, ah — the world age when teaching will come through that, and then there will be a celebration of peace. However, we say you cannot discard anything — hmm — because, ah — [sigh] somewhere within that enactment there is the struggle toward union going on.
   Do you understand what we are getting at?
   Yes? No?

   Jim: You’re saying that you need — that you have to have the conflict in order to get the union; or is it part, or is it one —?

   Micciah: No, we are not saying you have to have the conflict. We are saying, however, that even within apparently totally unconscious conflict (the war in the Middle East), the design of Spirit is present somewhere; there is nowhere that the design of Spirit is entirely absent. It cannot be so, if Spirit is everywhere evenly present. But sometimes it is certainly obfuscated, or submerged. Yes — do you understand?

   Students: Yes — um-hm.

   Micciah: We are telling you this for several reasons. The outer world mirrors the inner world. So that you are able to regard the “battles,” quote, and the unconsciousness within yourself as it starts to become conscious — as it comes into Being revealed — you can regard it all —
   [Student sneezes. Whisper.] God bless you!
   [Aloud.] — with compassion. To say: “The design of Spirit cannot be absent — cannot be entirely absent anywhere! Therefore it is somewhere within me — in all my struggling, in the parts of myself that I tend to reject — [and in] the greater violence” (we are talking about the so-called negative part); “and I may be compassionate toward that within my own being, within the ground of my own being; and I can become empowered to be compassionate about that in the ground of the outer world, the relative world.”
   So! Please, let us have your questions.

   Lynn: I have a question about the nature of childbirth, as it’s been practiced, in this country especially, for the past twenty or thirty years, and how it’s affected our environment, and the socioeconomic levels, and the government; and what we can do about changing the experience, and how it’ll manifest in healing, if it will.

   Micciah: [Sigh.] The hatred of the body; hatred of women and of birth; the desire for, quote, “scientific” structuring, has done much to damage children and women. And the relationship of — oh, the culture at large, let us say — to the birthing woman and the relationship to the earth, are very similar: a relationship of dislike. More than dislike; in its most virulent form, a relationship of hatred and torment.
   The medical profession is not all bad, and there have been and there are things that do support life in that realm. We don’t want to fall into the trap — the “good-guy, bad-guy” trap. But birth is, indeed, a potential celebration; and even in the breathing techniques that were taught recently for natural childbirth — certain kinds of natural childbirth — there was a great emphasis on quiet [with a laugh], on being sedate, even in the midst of the process. Whereas it would seem much more natural to — if one were so inclined — [make some kind of] sound, and stamp, and certainly move around. The image of a woman on her back on a birthing table, immobilized, with needles, intravenous feed — although perhaps useful in some cases (not being prone, but being supplied intravenously) — most of what goes in the intravenous feed is ... [pause] hm! not so great.
   So, it has certainly not been acceptable for women to walk around birthing rooms howling and being massaged and having acupuncture and, um — there’s more now; there was nothing for a long time. This was not possible in any way, shape, or form.
   So children who are brought into the environment, many of them drugged — it is not a great surprise when they later, en masse, have difficulties with drugs and certain degenerative diseases — and autoimmune diseases — which are, ah — [whisper] oh! [Aloud.] This is very complicated [with a laugh].
   When the organism comes in in pain, and toxic with drugs, and is then in an inhospitable environment — a hateful, sterile environment — then the singing, the signaling, of the immune system, is affected. The whole body is affected, later becoming prey, easy prey, to self-damaging disease. As well as addictions. And the notion of pulling a child into the world and shoving its face in light much brighter than that [indicating lamp], and hitting it, and then separating it from the mother, is enough to breed violence in the most peacefully inclined individuals.
   As we said at the very beginning of this session, there is no design that is completely without Spirit’s signature. So even in that, it is a struggle, eventually, toward correcting.
   And women — those of them that have been listened to, and have the opportunity — have sometimes described birth as orgasmic. But it is often treated, in Western medical terms, as a disease — as if pregnancy and birth were an illness.
   The placenta, unless something has gone awry, is very nourishing — that which is expelled after the birth. And for a long time now that has changed. Breast-feeding was severely discouraged, if not prohibited. It does give the child immunity and so forth. And contact.
   Do you want to ask more, Lynn?

   Lynn: How does the nature of circumcision affect the warriors in the race?

   Micciah: It is not necessary to cut pieces off your body! If Spirit had intended you to be —
   [Laughter.]
   That argument can be used for a lot of things, but, ah — your divinely created body does not need to have hunks cut off it.
   Now: in some cultures, circumcision was a rite done not at birth but at puberty (puberty being then somewhat earlier; and now it has become earlier again). And it was done as a sacrament, and in conjunction with some sexual stimulation. It was done as a ritual of initiation. In some cultures it was done at birth as a mark of the tribe.
   It has a damaging effect on the energy body. And it is felt by the baby. On the warriors: it is both a warlike — that is, harming — gesture toward the boy, toward the child, but stimulates paradoxical elements of (if you want to speak mythically) rage and passivity.
   Now: there are going to be a lot of holes in this statement. There have been many cultures where men have not been circumcised that have been very warlike, and probably vice versa. However, from this perspective: it is not necessary to cut bits off your body. The natural form of the body is not harboring ill intent and potential cancers, unless there is something severely out of alignment in the outer realm. It is like the sun, and skin cancer. And, ah ... it is not helpful to the child’s body, except in the most unusual cases.
   [Whisper.] So. [Aloud.] As we said at the beginning: if everything — if you are relating to what you observe in the natural world as part of the song of Spirit, then it is clear that it isn’t necessary to mutilate yourself.
   [Suddenly loud.] We wish to add to this discussion that you may shift your consciousness, your own constellation of believing and resonating. So even though you have had, let us say, a disastrous birth experience — you came in drugged and were separated from your mother, from warmth; you were in a nursery; it was abysmal: still, you can shift your own consciousness so that that is part of your history — it is not eradicated — and you are not forever at its mercy.
   And with that we will stop.
   We share with you much love, and much appreciation, energy, and joy. And we bid you all a very good — [whisper] day.

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   Julie: That’s the end of this particular segment... of this particular adventure. And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
   Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.

ONSCREEN VISUAL DISCLAIMER:
   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”