MICCIAH CHANNEL: JULIE WINTER
Produced by Jon Child

Transcript of Program 141, 1990

Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1990 where Micciah discusses:
Spiritual surrender — creative “drawing in and letting out” of Spirit’s total healing power.  To focus on a wounded area and demand that it “Heal!” works much less well. View Section
Eastern versus Western views on desire and on manifesting goals:  Attachment is mobile and imprisoning; one can be attached to nonattachment.  One’s deep purpose is “wholly complete and always unfolding.”  Be mindful of attachment; match goals with purpose, and they can be realized in many different ways. View Section
Unconditionally responsive God (“the Law”) versus personal God: The Law is not Spirit but the mechanics by which Spirit works.  Spirit’s caring: “an absolute enveloping.”  Metaphysical model misses the “rambunctious magnificence of Spirit.” View Section
Can “higher” realms than Micciah’s be channeled through him/her?  Such realms do exist.  Richness of material fluctuates with the channeler’s capacity as a tuning instrument.  Are we asking the right questions? “Mostly.” View Section


   Micciah:  We greet you all, dear friends.

   Julie:  My Name is Julie Winter, and this program is called Micciah Channel.
   And what you are going to see is me, going into an altered state of consciousness, a non-ordi­­nary state of awareness.  And what I believe happens when I am in that state is that I enter an expanded geography of the self, and that there is an overlap between what I know (my intelligence, my awareness, my experience) and something that is larger than my ordinary awareness.  It may indeed be that it is all part of my awareness and that would be fine. What’s produced is a personality that is a product of this overlapping and the personality is called Micciah.
   My voice is going to change and it is my own voice.  The variations in speech have to do with my being in an altered state.
   The program is created from my classes.   My students bring questions in.  We encourage you to do the same. And use your discernment in evaluating the information that comes through.

   Micciah:  We greet you all, dear friends.  And we would like to speak first about the state of surrender.
   Surrender is not a passive state, although the word is often associated with collapse and being a loser; but surrender, in the spiritual sense, is lively, passionate, and intensely fertile and creative.
   In the process of healing, for instance, the capacity for the physical organism to heal itself is doubled, tripled, quadrupled when you are able to allow surrender to the larger process at hand.  When you are focused on the physical body, saying, “Heal!  My knee doesn’t feel well.  Heal!  Heal!  Heal!  Heal! Are you healing yet? — “

   [Laughter.]

   ”Now HEAL!”
   This, obviously, contracts all but the most, um — let us say — mechanical or concrete level of healing.  Whereas, when you can allow surrender (and it is a process of allowing), then there is the capacity to draw in and express — it is both drawing in and letting out — the magnificent healing power that surrounds you all the time.
   We do not mean to indicate this — hmm — is instead of physical death, but that the body will respond so powerfully physically, emotionally, and intellectually, creatively, sexually — in every way! — to a capacity to surrender, which is linked to trust and to faith.
   It is the same in the emotional body.  When you are working with deep emotional issues, with trauma from this life and possibly other existences as well, and you say to yourself: “Well?  ARE YOU STILL ANXIOUS???” —

   [Laughter, most noticeably the baby’s, which continues through the following.]

   — and you are pounding on the emotional body, saying: “Still?  DON’T YOU FEEL CALMER?”
   Well no, of course you don’t.
   There is a quality of yielding — of joyful, celebratory surrender.  Not only giving it away, giving it up to Spirit, but throwing it up to Spirit.

   [Telephone rings.]

   We have bells, and babies laughing, so you know there is much agreement on this point.
   So!  Please.  What are your questions? 

   Jeanne:  Ahhhh!  [A sing-song sigh.]  Micciah, I have a question which is right along with what you’re saying.  The first part of the question is: Confusion around the difference in the Western philosophy which has to do with creating a desire — wanting something, desiring something, visualizing that desire; then the Eastern system, where you want to attain desirelessness: you want to let go, you want to detach — and out of that, the surrendering to that, you manifest.  Um — and, sort of a clarification around that.

   Micciah:  Yes.  First of all, attachment is one of the most mobile forms the emotional and mental bodies can construe.  You can be equally attached to desirelessness as you can be to “this job,” “this body,” “this person,” “this event.”
   [Slowly, emphatically.]   In formulating what you want, in the sense of goals, if you first ask to know your deep purpose, if you ask to know the enfolded purpose that has brought you into this incarnation, then you will be checking to see whether your goals — that is your plans, your strategies, your beautiful designs of consciousness — match with your purpose.  If you first ask the divinity within yourself, “How do I come to be here?” you are asking something that you have an inner knowing about.
   Your purpose is already perfect in its seed form.  It is wholly complete and always unfolding.  (Paradoxical.)  Your — we will say this again: Your purpose is wholly complete; it is embedded in the information of your cells, in the attunement of  your brain, in the biochemistry of your body; and it is always unfolding.  So if you inquire about your purpose, which has multi-dimensions, you may then approach its realization in different styles.
   Is this clear so far?  You may approach from here — from what we are calling the more Eastern point of view, of stillness, contemplation — or you may approach from what we are calling the more Western mode.  You may approach in ways that come from, ah — the tradition of those people indigenous to this land, the Native Americans: you may approach by speaking with the allies, by dreaming.  But the way you approach does not really have anything to do with the attachment of your desire, because attachment can appear — does appear — anywhere and everywhere.  It is, ah ... not really a function of your approach.
   Attachment can be surrendered.  It is like a wave or a breath: it appears ... disappears ... appears ... disappears.  Appears.  It can be surrendered — this is it: If you are willing to be mindful of the way your attachment dances and keeps you prisoner, then you are simply mindful of that — no matter which path you approach Spirit from.
   Attachment, ah — is imprisoning, and the more dense the attachment the more impervious it is to surrender.  Dense attachment is impenetrable.  So when we said earlier your knee hurts and you say, “Heal!  Heal!  Heal!  Be fixed!” approaching it with a kind of attachment and very little trust or surrender, you are imprisoned by the narrowness of available possibilities.  And that would be true whether you asked for healing in the name of Jesus, whether you asked for healing through your allies and the Great Spirit, through the name of the One, or through, ah — pure meditation.
   So.  Attachment is very solid.  The more solid the attachment, the narrower your possibilities, your range of possibilities.  Surrender ... is transparent.  So whether you are meditating in a Zen monastery and you are transparent, or whether you are sitting in a room in New York City, building strategies with your divine imagination and asking for Spirit’s support in your creations ... [almost whispering, with a laugh] doesn’t matter as much as you think it does.
   So — now we will move on.

   Jeanne:   In Science of Mind there is the concept of the Law, or God, being not judgmental — the unconscious simply believing whatever you say to it no matter what, and the Law acting upon that.

   Micciah:  Yes — yes. 

   Jeanne:  And then in certain kinds of religious beliefs there is the idea of a personal God, a God that cares about the sparrows and the bees and your personal interests.

   Micciah:  In the discipline of Science of Mind (the teaching — it is a particular metaphysical teaching), the Law is referred to really more as the mechanical principle, and One Mind is the creative principle of love.  That compassionate, enormous principle is analogous to the description of an all-caring creator.  The Law is really a neutral principle.  It is not Spirit.  It is conceived of, in that model, as a neutral principle.
   [Pause.]
   Spirit is absolutely embedded in everything.  When you anthropomorphize (is that right?) its quality, you think of the caring as being a human quality of caring.  And it is more an absolute enveloping.  We can’t find language enough — strong enough: caring.  And the Law is the mechanics by which it works.  They are not really in confl- — they are not really different.

   Jeanne:  Can I — ask for a clarification on that?

   Micciah:  Yes.

   Jeanne:  So if you pray to a God, are you invoking Law?

   Micciah:  No, Law just is.  It’s the mechanical quality that gets things done.  Yes, you are invo- — yes, you are; you are invoking it all — it is simply there, all the time.  Like gravity.  (Although gravity is not there all the time.) 

   Jeanne:  [Whisper.]  Okay.

   Micciah:  There are a couple of missing pieces in metaphysics, as it is commonly understood.  [Sharp breath.]  Let’s see if we can get down into this.
   When it is said in metaphysics that you think something into the Law, it doesn’t — it implies that it is this kind of thinking, but of course it can be THIS kind of thinking: heart thinking, unconscious thinking.  So that whatever your — the pattern of your thoughts are, the Law responds to and Spirit creates.  Yes?  Spirit does not read your mind.
   But this is a limited model.  It’s a good model, but it’s limited.  It does not entirely take into consideration the rambunctious magnificence of Spirit, of the angelic realms, of the co-creators in your animal allies.  It is too easy to interpret that as this [tapping forhead] kind of thinking..  Do you see?

   Jeanne:  Um-hmm.

   Micciah:  For instance, when we were speaking before of surrender: it is possible to be in the presence of someone whose willingness — constant, renewed, and renewing willingness — to surrender is palpable; and they will ignite your willingness.  (We have discussed this before, in other contexts — the context of a question about miracles that Polly asked quite some time ago.)  You can be in the presence of someone who is in such constant joyful surrender that ... it, um — ignites or sparks that same quality of surrender in you.  And that doesn’t really appear in the metaphysical model.  (Maybe, as the idea of race- mind or group belief.)
   So.  Let’s go on.

   Sheldon:  The question I was going to ask was about you.  You talked about Spirit just now in terms of Spirit being everywhere, and there being many, many different realms.

   Micciah:  [Whisper.]  Yes —

   Sheldon:  I’m curious as to how you as an entity know what you know; and are there realms higher than the one that you’re within —

   Micciah:  [Whisper.]  Yes — yes. 

   Sheldon:  — and can those realms be channeled through you as well?

   Micciah:  [Aloud.]  There are realms far greater than the one I represent.  I am not an “I.”  I am — an aspect of love ... that exists between the physical and, ah — some of the interpenetrating realms.  I am a union through this one, through her cooperation; and I appear as a personality, but you only can see a fragment of what I am, and the “I” that you see is part this one.  Yes, there are realms far, far beyond, or greater than.
   Can they be funneled through this one, or can I play tag with them, so to speak?

   Sheldon:  Funneled through this one.

   Micciah:  Well, first of all — in what you perceive as her channeling, or Jeannie’s channeling (many kinds of what you call channeling), there is a constant fluctuation.  It’s not — ah — one bunch of stuff coming in through this receiver, mixing with another bunch of stuff, and appearing as what you see; but it is all the tuning.  The capacity, this one’s capacity, to tune to — let us say, “higher,” for convenience’s sake — realms is constantly fluctuating.  So you will get, in one session, some material that is of, ah — much richer quality than other material, as her capacity as a tuning instrument fluctuates.  And it’s different on different days and in different sessions, altogether.  So — as she changes, as she has expanded her capacity as tuner, what she receives has — has become greater.
   Yes?

   Sheldon:  In our asking of questions, often, there’s — it’s not always easy to come up with questions, and we often ask questions out of confusion.  Are we actually, at this point in the way the world is unfolding, asking the right questions?

   Micciah:  Mostly.  You could try a session where you ask no questions, and we simply speak.  [Pause.]
   Mostly you do ask the right questions.
   Do you want to ask more about that?

   Sheldon:  No.  Thanks.

   Micciah:  But you don’t always hear the responses [with a laugh], or follow them up!  It is more that you keep asking the question as if you have a preconceived response in mind, and if you don’t receive that you keep asking the question — even though it has been responded to (we don’t like to say “answered,” because there isn’t only one answer) — it has been responded to and responded to and responded to; but you have an idea of what you want to hear about it and how to go about taking care of that information, and when that doesn’t happen you keep on asking.

   Sheldon:  Does that mean as a group we’re now ready, perhaps, to hear things we weren’t ready to hear a while ago?

   Micciah:  Absolutely.  You have to have the hearing for something, or you can be responded to infinitely.

   Julie:  That’s the end of this particular segment...  of this particular adven­ture.  And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
   Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.

ONSCREEN VISUAL DISCLAIMER:
   Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellec­tual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”