MICCIAH CHANNEL: JULIE WINTER
Produced by Jon Child
Transcript of Program 165, 1991 [automated CC]
Some of Julie’s early work in channel from 1991 where Micciah discusses:
• Truthfulness, secrets, and lies. Secrets are connected with shame, and make lies necessary. Holding secrets drains energy resources. “Great wealths” of energy are stored in our secrets. “You lie about your aliveness.” View Section
• Sexuality: A dramatic component of aliveness. “Great lies abound” in sexual arena. Many needs for affection are mistakenly eroticized. Sexuality partakes of the bliss of the universe. Bliss: a component of and guide for all life-affirming activity. Sexual attraction: “a kind of chemical singing.” Auric threads embrace at the heart, root, crown chakras. “Very high” sexual relationship has great healing and generative power. We lie about the “landscape” of our desire. Express your love as bliss. View Section
[The tape had deteriorated a bit, but is quite watchable with some tracking errors and minor glitches. It is published for reference.]
Micciah: We greet you all, dear friends.
Julie: My Name is Julie Winter, and this program is called Micciah Channel.
And what you are going to see is me, going into an altered state of consciousness, a non-ordinary state of awareness. And what I believe happens when I am in that state is that I enter an expanded geography of the self, and that there is an overlap between what I know (my intelligence, my awareness, my experience) and something that is larger than my ordinary awareness. It may indeed be that it is all part of my awareness and that would be fine. What’s produced is a personality that is a product of this overlapping, and the personality is called Micciah.
My voice is going to change and it is my own voice. The variations in speech have to do with my being in an altered state.
The program is created from my classes. My students bring questions in. We encourage you to ask questions, to ask questions about channeling, about my channeling, whatever. And use your discernment in evaluating the information that comes through.
Micciah: We greet you, dear friends. And we are most pleased to be with you. And we wish to speak first about truthfulness. And, ah — about secrets. And about lies.
Your secrets become secrets because they are connected with shame, and with fear. And secrets sooner or later necessitate lies. In everything from personal, to social, to group believing and behavior, you live amongst a fabric within a fabric of secrets and lies. And these are not ecologically sound, in terms of consciousness. They drain energy resources. When you have to hold something as a secret — even secrets that have long dropped beneath the conscious level — when you have to hold it, it takes energy. It detracts from your aliveness and from your spontaneity.
So, we are saying to you, at this time, at the end of three huge cycles of transformation, planetary cycles: here you are, each other’s teachers — shape-changers. Look to your secrets for great wealths of energy to be liberated as you start to unpack them! And to your lies. You will have to press through (gently!) the desire of the personality, in its righteous mode, to say, “What! I don’t lie!”
You lie about your aliveness. You lie about your miraculous nature, about your closeness to Spirit and to — eternity [with a laugh].
And one of the places that great lies abound is in the sexual arena. Because there has been such intense shaming, from religious quarters and also, in other cultures, from political quarters (in, for instance, the developing phases of Communism in China it was very repressive sexually. Not a religion — same difference).
We want to say again: we are talking to you about liberating your own energies, inheriting your own ... life-source — claiming it, by being willing to ... investigate where you feel forced to hold secrets, to be in less than the truth. The truth moves around; it’s not “The Permanent Truth.”
So. What are — is this clear?
Micciah: What are your questions about sex? About relationship?
Linda: Sexuality is the mode, the means, by which we are attracted to one another — one of the great modes by which we are attracted to one another. What constitutes sexuality? Is there more to it than the physical response? Why do we have the physical response to one person and not another? And why at one time and not another time? Is there a soul’s purpose? Is there a spiritual purpose? Is there more to it than just what appears on the surface?
Micciah: [Whisper.] Yes!
Micciah: [Sotto voce; intently.] Your sexual feelings are a dramatic component of your creativity and your aliveness! Now — right away we are going to run into complications.
In your culture, a great deal of what appears as sexual feeling is, in fact, a lie. We use the word deliberately; we know it’s going to evoke a response. We don’t mean you’re lying to yourself, like lying about, ah — whether you stole a nickel.
You have profound human animal needs for affection, for solace, for soothing, for comforting, for the physical pleasure of touch, that is not sexual! There are many elements of aliveness that you have been taught to lie about. Repression involves lying, yes? “I don’t have that feeling. I don’t have that need — never heard of it.”
So — the one arena that is acceptable (except of course that it isn’t, because it’s fraught with other problems; but it’s more acceptable) is sex. So a great many needs — for nurturing, for healing touch — become eroticized. If you hold someone and stroke them, kiss them — THAT’S IT! Must be erotic. So there are all these glorious possibilities for affection, touch, that are forced into the sexual arena. And then, there are many hungers. The hunger for faith, for ecstasy — a kind of heart-emptiness and belly-emptiness — that is also shunted into the sexual arena. If those needs could be more lovingly explored and contemplated, then you would not have to lie about them. And it would be clear to you that they were not really sexual needs at all. So here we have hypothetical possibilities. You finally find out what your sexual needs really are [laughing] after you find out what they’re not.
And then, we have the question of the words: language. What does that mean, sexual attraction? Well, you know what it means — sexual attraction. But sex itself opens out into many possibilities. From the physical pleasure of the body of the personality, in a kind of intimate sharing that produces ecstatic responses (it has a particular effect on your brain chemistry, on your immune system, on your nervous system — everything), all the way out to what was understood in some of the teachings of India as the Kundalini energy that rises from the root of the spine and expands up into the crown center, unfolds up into the crown center, and the ecstasy of pure creation! Pure creation. The orgasm that has no bodily physical component [laughing], for which sex is — we are going to oversimplify — in a way a metaphor. The vast creative bliss of the universe is represented in the most encompassing form of sexuality.
And you say about the animals [Hummingbird, the cat has walked in and settled in front of Julie/Micciah] — well, you have a scientific understanding of them: “They wish to eat and procreate, and these are very basic drives.” No! They are participating in the bliss of the universe! [Patting the cat] What do you think? (And also in the killing and eating of the universe.)
Now: there is a component of bliss ... [whispering] in ... nearly everything. [Aloud.] All the life-affirming activities: your creativity, your relationships with each other as friendship, your healing touch, the paintings you paint, the books you write, the speeches you give! The video you shoot. When you are at one — the more you are at one with the Divine, the more this bliss enters into activities and, ah — also, is a guide for those activities. Activities of harm, of cruelty, become distorted pathways to excitement, stimulation, aliveness. And they do not contain that bliss.
But back to sex. So, when you say, “sexual attraction, sexual relationship,” you are talking about an almost infinite variety of possibility. Sex has been, ah — associated in large part with economics, the economics of marriage and progeny. So the regulation of sexual freedom — bod... how can you regulate someone’s bodily freedom? Not to harm another person, but to fear their feelings? But it has been, on pain of death!
Sexual attraction is based on an energetic relationship — a kind of chemical singing. (We are talking about genuine attraction; we are assuming — we are making the huge assumption that you are not dealing with great displaced, ah — ah — blobs [laughing], glops, of energy. So. Like the scientists, we are speaking of a relative, hypothetical world.)
So, energies sing to each other. (They do anyway!) Two people meet, and they are creative beings, and they have much to communicate. And the sounding of one energy field, and the sounding of another ... meet, relate. You know the common phrase “We will produce beautiful music together.” It is, ah — more than a joke. And there are certain kinds of sounding — and again, it depends on the personality; people are aroused by different things. Some people are temperamentally aroused by ideas, some people by form, some by a shared creativity. And the singing between two beings (how — how to describe it?) ...
There are — threads, that, ah — move through the auric field. And they are connected, when the attraction is sexual, to (hopefully) the heart center and the root, sometimes the crown, the third eye. And they — embrace. And are charged with life-energy; and fed, in the case of human beings, by imagining. Most of sex comes from here [tapping her forehead and laughing] — not here. [pointing below the belt] Most of sexual attraction comes from your thinking and believing and responding.
And since the human creature is constantly changing, those changes are reflected within the dynamic of the energy fields; so sometimes the singing to each other does not happen. You were once attracted to this person; you have changed, they have changed — that particular song is not happening between you any longer, or at the moment.
And within a long-term relationship — hah. A number of things can happen. The energy fields can change and begin to miss each other, sexually, because the feelings have been damaged, and also because people have gone in different directions; or (another possibility) the singing becomes stronger and deeper as the intimacy continues over years, and sets up a kind of entity of its own. [Deep breath.] This can be done mostly through the emotional body, or, more powerfully, with the thinking body — [the] body of ideas, and the spiritual self.
And then there is a very high sexual relationship that has tremendous healing force. Quite literally. And is like a matrix, out of which not only physical birth can come — you don’t have physical birth in every sexual encounter, nor in same-sex encounters, nor in many heterosexual encounters — but, think: birth. What other birthing comes through sexual, emotional, intellectual, creative, spiritual joy? Many kinds of birthing!
[Pause.] This is such an enormous subject. Nothing we can say is going to encompass very much of it.
So — one of the things you lie about [deep sigh] — your secrets — is about the landscape of your own desire, what that might mean. Such creativity! Some spiritual teachings wish you to push down desire. We say, no; more — explore it with reverence, and celebrate through your passion. Express your love as bliss.
Do you want to ask more, Linda?
Linda: No, that was a wonderful answer!
Micciah: [Whisper.] Good.
Linda: Thank you.
Micciah: We can see — we have this tiny answer; and then (speaking of micro and macro!) —
Micciah: It could go on and on. We could do an entire book, easily.
Linda: I liked the connection — that it wasn’t isolated from all the rest of our selves and creativity and spirituality.
Micciah: Oh, no. Not at all —
Linda: It was a part of — yes.
Micciah: And, ah — of course, in America, when you evolved the so-called sexual liberation movement, which was not much of a liberation, but — you moved directly into “More is Better.” It applies to everything else, culturally; it might as well apply to sex. It is not necessarily true; nor is it necessarily true that less is better!
It is very individual, and it changes as you change. And, ah — now, you have the very present difficulties and fears having to do with contamination, which has been true in Western culture, in one way or another, for a long time, except for a few years in the ’60’s and the ’70’s; because there were many diseases that were transmitted sexually that were, ah — would kill you. So in addition to working out the emotions, you have a specter — but you can be sexual and erotic and physical and creative, and, ah — in the balm, in the bliss, of your own vast creative impulses, in ways that are safe. Physically. Biologically.
Julie: That’s the end of this particular segment... of this particular adventure. And this channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you.
Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.
Julie: “This channeling is meant to be a spiritual, emotional, intellectual, heartful, mindful journey that I share with another realm, that I share with my classes and that we all share with you. Please go over the material, evaluate it for yourself, and know what it is that you think about it.”